Albeto why do you say you suspect these posts make no sense to me?
I say this based on the responses to some posts. The responses suggest that you're not comprehending the point, but rather getting distracted with one word or phrase that seems to trigger you in some way. You then go on to assure people about some component of an otherwise unrelated or illogically followed concept. In short, the context of your replies aren't always fitting with the context of the comments to which you reply.
That's becoming a trend for you.
What is? This statement follows a question. Screwtape is trying to illustrate how your points don't connect for many of us. This is an example for me. What is the trend? Finding your posts confusing? Pointing that out? Challenging you on the claims you make? If so, that's been happening for a while now. If you're referring to something else, unironically, I don't follow.
I understand very well what's going here. How is making my case an irrelevant point? It has been my goal from the get go to tie abortion to mental illness. This is an abortion thread and that quote you posted is my case about mental health and abortion. The least you could have done was explain WHY it's irrelevant. When you don't you just come across as a pompous a$$.
I did. I even posted a pretty little picture, remember?
The 3 links are obviously meant to be together. Not divided as you have done. Own it.
Together they don't support the statement you're making. Separately they don't support the statement you're making. You'll learn more about studies and what they show and what they don't show and what practical information can be extrapolated in school.
There's no shame in losing an argument with me.
No doubt. My philosophy is that once you know you're wrong about something, you're no longer wrong. I'd rather see where I'm wrong and correct my opinion according to information than to continue assuming something that is factually untrue. As it so happens, I did a really quick search about abortion and mental health. I found a few interesting studies. Predictably, the jury is out. Some studies show one thing, some show another. We need more time to collect and analyze more data.
One study shows you're correct, that the mental health of women pre-abortion is statistically significantly more challenged than the mental health of women pre-birth (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3929105/
). That's pretty interesting, and something I didn't know. I suspect you didn't know either or you would have offered a direct source, not a list of articles that talk about both issues in the same page.
Your premise was faulty, but your conclusion was correct. Before you congratulate yourself for having made your point, you didn't. I believe Jaime explained as well as I, no doubt better than I. It's not enough to stumble on the correct conclusion if your understanding is flawed all along. That approach doesn't bode for success. It's a lucky strike at best. Again, you'll learn how to find and analyze data in school, assuming this is an accredited school for an accredited degree.
But I suspect this isn't really your point at all. I think you just got lucky with my find here, but not so lucky after all. I say this because you have argued that abortion could cause mental health challenges and that counseling functions to decrease that risk. If I understand your argument, identifying women with mental health challenges prior to abortions would prevent some degree of follow-up mental health challenges subsequent to abortions.
The problem is, data doesn't support the theory that abortions stress the mental health of women in a statistically significant way. That is to say, a woman with a mood disorder doesn't find her mood disorder increases after an abortion. However, it is more likely to increase after giving birth. This article explains more and has links to sources: https://www.salon.com/2016/12/14/abortion-isnt-linked-with-mental-illness-study-shows-but-being-denied-one-might-be/
So what I take away from this is women who face mental challenges recognize that raising or giving up children is likely to be more stress than they can feasibly manage. Abortion then is a positive option that decreases the risk of increased mental, emotional, social, and economic strain. This is a good thing! This is an empowering option for women! Furthermore, pre-abortion counseling for the sake of preventing after-abortion mental health challenges is as useless as Scientology approach to treating your thetan for mental health. It's pseudoscience bunk, drummed up by conservatives to maintain control over the sexual behavior of women.
If the only female issue you care about is the right to abort you are a dangerous non advocate of women's issues.
This is an example of what I was saying at the very beginning. I interpret this comment to be in response to an argument that I only care about abortion with regard to female issues. Leaving aside the fact I don't know what you mean by "female issues," I've not said, suggested, or even remotely implied such a thing. From where do you get this idea? Why do you argue against it? It was never a part of the conversation, it is not within the context of anything we've said to each other. I find myself scratching my head trying to figure out how you come to this conclusion in the absence of any context.
Do you own stock?
Why can't you just let me out of this thread?
No one is forcing you to stay.