Once again, peace be with you. I pray for all of you.
Don't let pride and arrogance in. I'm just a humble servant of God, with little understanding, so be kind to this theist.
You all have similarities in your responses. You can not win with errors due to your own misunderstandings about what you are citing. The error is in you and not the truth. Kymer understands the distinction being made between human behavior (fallen) and what is truth.
Joeblowers...we are all harmful. The Catholic Church "teaches" life is a precious gift and that faith and reason go together. Science and Religion can not contradict themselves and in fact go together. Through science we can better know God. I'm sure this statement will inflame many here but there it is. Seek to understand it. Read Humanae Vitae (Latin Of Human Life) written by Pope Paul VI and FIDES ET RATIO (Faith and Reason) by Pope John Paul II as starting points. Christ died for all BTW.
Seppuku...we live in a fallen world and yes the Bible speaks of this. Read the New Testament and then look at the Old Testament through the lens of Christ and his mercy. Look at the crucified Christ and understand He has found happiness there because He loves you. On the surface, you are probably thinking I'm nuts, but if you seek to understand the sacrifice He has made you will begin to see. Start listening to Gods call, my words...no one's words can make you truly understand...but when you do, MAN O MAN watch out because it is awesome!
Omen...a sign...I wonder why you choose that user name. God gave us his Son, which man destroyed out of evil, and left us a Church which then compiled the Bible for all and continues to speak the truth about God being pure goodness in the face of evil. Lurther responded to real issues in the Church during his time. Unfortunately, the response, intended or not, caused a rejection that ultimately leads to confusion and atheism. This does not change the message of objective truth God has revealed to us.
Historicity...unfortunately, I love pasta...it shows too.
You immediate make the error of associating politics to my values. Politics come and go and change values. Only yesterday Democrats were those fighting for life. Realize anyone can call themselves something but what they are is a totally different story sometimes. Ultimately, examples mean nothing unless you understand what was happening and is actually taught. Listen to Catholic radio...call them with your point and ask them to explain it.
Hatter23...anyone can take quotes out of context and make them sound bad. St. Augustine is a gift but you can't pick up his works and read them like a magazine. It takes time and willingness to understand what he is saying. The same goes for Aquinas and many others. Egocentricity is difficult to recognize. St. Therese de Lisieux is a wonderful saint to reference here.
"“May today there be peace within.
May you trust God that you are exactly where you are meant to be.
May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of faith.
May you use those gifts that you have received, and pass on the love that has been given to you.
May you be content knowing you are a child of God.
Let this presence settle into your bones, and allow your soul the freedom to sing, dance, praise and love.
It is there for each and every one of us.”
? St. Thérèse de Lisieux
My intention is not to insult anyone with any of my words. I intend to come across as helpful and humble, so I apologize if I do not. The Saints are roll models for us. Realize it takes effort to understand their writings (yes, do your own reading or "thinking" rather) and realize those that interpret the saints for us can fail us.
I have to go...but will try to return.