This thread isn't on the existence of God. I'm an atheist as you well know. The thread is on what sort of people inspire and what aspects inspire. Our discussion is on whether Nick is inspiring or not. I have been arguing it is.
Keep that in mind.
nice lie there, dear.
Its not a lie; it is what I sincere was reading in your last statement. It sounded wrong to me and thus, I called you out on it. Several other statements suggest the same thing to me; i.e., perhaps there is a subtlety in what you are conveying that I'm missing here.
.So, your god with that tea set circuling Zeta Reticuli? Nice moving the goalposts here too, Ricky. I've been discussing a religious person spreading religous lies.
I was discussing a religious person inspiring people and I started the thread remember.Yes
, if your belief in the God Zeta causes you to be a better cook, I'm in favor of the way that belief is reflected in you. I am invoking Zeta right now for the record and please do not blaspheme his name while I make coffee. If you prefer good coffee, I'm allowed to disbelief in Zeta and still be inspired by the fruits
of your belief in Zeta.
It goes without saying, that I, as a non-believer, will express the message differently than you do.As a Taoist
, I don't necessarily state "God made a purpose out of such and such", but I am essentially called to experience and appreciate the skin I am in, for its own sake ... I personally translate this, as making the best of things and adapting
And whoop-de do what you find "silly". He's a positive guy who lies about reality. He doesn’t need to.
Expressing one's religious beliefs isn't lying. As far as I understand it, his religious beliefs are a small part of his message; i.e., some people listen to his talks without sharing his beliefs and are still inspired by him.
Until you can show evidence that the bible god, quite well defined in that book, has done anything, there is no reality supporting that it exists. There is only a probablity that it does but as described one can say that it does not exist since this god would be doing things. If this person had claim that there was maybe some force in the universe, no real qualities, etc, then your argument would be valid. He doesn't.
Off topic aside: There is evidence, the question is one's evaluation of that evidence. The bible itself can be taken as a testimoney and the question is whether or not you believe that testimoney.
Somebody wrote an account and while I personally think that the account isn't reliable, it is still evidence. It may not be very good evidence but its still evidence. There are also sparse accounts of Christians being murdered. All of this, is totally irrelavent to the question about whether a given a Christian is "inspirational" or not. It is relavent to the question of whether or not you should believe in God yourself.
I agree that atheism is the "stronger" positon, despite your belief in Zeta.
moving the goalposts in the discussino we have been engaged in. Appealing to emotions, I'd say too. Of course you can be inspired by his attitude, what does that have to do with the myths he claism are true? Are you inspired by the lies he furthers?
"Appealing to a misuse of logical fallacies ..." Remember, we are not discussing the existence of God here but whether this person, who happens to be religious, is inspirational or not.
It is a given that he is a religious person as thus attrbutes things to his God as all theists do which is why I said this, So all theists make you sick
and you then called me a "liar" for doing so, lol.
I do agree that communities form in isolation. Atheists here, fans of science fiction, etc. But that’s not necessarily always a good thing.
The deaf community feels their culture and community is a good thing. I have seen some of them on youtube and I do suspect, that there may be some aethetic things to love about it
Obviously, they need to deal with the non-deaf world. Some of them don't like hearng implants. Havng seen pictures of some of the implants, I'd not want one either. That is, I'd rather be deaf than have an electronic device drilled into me.
Now, if there was a device that was external, that could restore my hearing, I would feel differently