Can you show me in scripture that GOD damns a child to hell...?
Astreja, GrayBeard and others have already shown you a number of verses regarding the damnation of children by God.
As it has been said before, the bible does not have any passages that go like "All of you are guilty of sin and worthy of punishment! Small children and persons not accountable for their actions excluded."
In fact, as the bible shows time and time again, God has no qualms about either killing children or declaring children guilty of something that their parents or ancestors have done. It's pretty much a recurring theme throughout the bible as a whole.
Explain to me what you think love is...?
ILY, you are stalling here and you know it.
No matter the definition of love, if you presume an entity that is omnipotent then if there is just one collateral victim of its schemes and plans, the entity can not
be called all-loving or even loving anymore.
It seems it has not really sunk in yet that if you declare your god to be omnipotent then whatever it is about, the bucket always
stops right in front of that god because in such a case everything
that happens, happens for the sole reason because that god either wants it to happen or because the god doesn't care about it enough to change it.
In the case of God that means that every collateral victim in his sin-and-redemption scheme for the greater purpose (That reminds me that you never spoke about what the "greater purpose" actually is. Please clarify.) is either wanted by God or God doesn't care about those. In either way the concept of the loving god flies right out of the window in both cases.
Why ask anyone. Think for yourself. Read what Jesus Christ taught and learn for yourself what he said. You find that it is good. Then, you won't have to ask anyone.
I can't help but notice that you have completely avoided to touch the actual question again
In case you forgot it, I'll repeat it for you: Do you consider it good and just to condemn all for the actions of two?
And regarding what you wrote here instead, you surely realize that you don't have a leg to stand on with that kind of claim, don't you?
According to what you wrote here, one has to just read the bible and what Jesus meant will become obvious.
If that is the case, I would like you to give us a short explanation why there are about 38000 distinct Christian denominations that all differ (sometimes almost completely) in their views of what Jesus really
meant. And this already large number doesn't even begin to scratch on the number of all the home-brew versions of Christianity that float around, too.
I would also like to mention that Christians can't even agree on one uniform bible.
If I do what you say and I read the KJV, will my conclusions about Jesus' teachings be correct?
If I do what you say and I read the NIV, will my conclusions about Jesus' teachings be correct?
If I do what you say and I read the Conservative Edition (of Conservapedia), will my conclusions about Jesus' teachings be correct?
If I do what you say and I read the Jefferson Bible, will my conclusions about Jesus' teachings be correct?
I am not GOD, so I don't get to decide what does and doesn't happen. I think you have taken it out of context a bit.
You are missing the point I was making there.
It's not about you being able to decide. It's about you being on the receiving end of such a plan for a "greater purpose."
Since you are ok with collateral damage for the cause of a greater purpose, surely you would have nothing against seeing your children and your loved ones being dragged away despite their innocence if it happens for a "greater purpose"?
If you would oppose that, if you would not be ok with that happening to your family, to have them suffer despite their innocence, then why, I ask you, are you ok when God does exactly that on a global scale and, since he is supposedly omnipotent, he would not even need to do any of that?
I think GOD is actually a lot smarter than both you and I. And if He allows the suffering, it is for a purpose.
once again: If God is omnipotent, then talking about him allowing suffering for a greater purpose is pretty much nonsense.
If an omnipotent deity does something, it does so exactly in the way it wants to. Any side effects of those actions are either intended by the deity or the deity doesn't care about the side effects. Because if the deity did not desire the side effects and it also cares about it, then the deity would have done things differently. That's the thing about omnipotence; there are simply no limitations. So plans that produce collateral damage on the way to a greater purpose are nonsense with an omnipotent entity in mind.
Besides, you should not really ask about how smart God actually is. The answer would not come out in favor of God.
No it is not. original sin still exists. Jesus payed the price for the "sins" of the world. Not just sin. But triumphed. It was because of the original sin that sin had entered into the world in the first place. But we still make our own choices.
You are engaging in Christian doublethink again.
Jesus mission was about the Original Sin. That's what everything else hangs on according to the bible. Not some vague sins and guiltiness based on personal life choices of each individual human.
Those of us who have reached an age of accountability.
Which the bible says absolutely nothing about. The "age of accountability" that so many Christians cling to for dear life is pure conjecture that requires heavy apologetic mental gymnastics to twist and turn some obscure bible verses into lending credit for such an idea as an age of accountability. I say "lending credit to" instead of "showing" because even with heavy apologetics you can't turn the bible verses into coming close to saying anything about an age of accountability.
And given how we all know that apologists usually have no problem getting "a day" to mean "several billions of years" and similar feats, it should tell us something how much credibility the notion of an age of accountability has.
The only reason it is still held up high is that they want it to be true since, of course, the all-loving God and baby Jesus can't possibly damn children to everlasting torture in hell.
And the more you come to understand, the more you will find out that GOD has already taken care of it for you. But by rejecting Jesus Christ. You are rejecting GOD.
See, ILY, here you go again. This is exactly what I meant with my example before.
First of all: Damning all based on the actions of two is injustice, no matter how you turn it. That God offers you a way out (but only if you do what he wants you to do) does not change the fact that the underlying mechanism is still unjust right to the core.
And as a second point this really demonstrates that my analogy was pretty much spot on. You say that "Jesus paid the price" but here you turn right around that in fact he has not paid the price for you if you don't get on your knees, open your mouth for the bouncer and even be grateful for it.
"I have paid the price for the VIP lounge for you. Go ahead, have fun." is a gift.
"I have paid the price for the VIP lounge for you. Whether you wanted in or not, you're in my debt now; be grateful and do what I say or I'll have you beat to a pulp" is extortion.
And as you have just said yourself, if you don't worship Jesus and God, you will be punished for it. As such the whole thing is not only unjust at the core ("You're all damned and guilty just by having been born.") but extortion on top of it ("Worship me or suffer eternal torture.").
So you guys falsely accuse GOD.
Not the case, as it has been demonstrated.