Some people desire the truth. Some people really, really desire the truth. Some people really, really, really, really, really reeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllyyyyyyyyyy desire and are desperate for the truth.
I think that's called "projecting".
Look, you're being real nice and all that stuff, but you're talking to us like we're three year olds and sometime pretty soon you're probably going to want to give us a spanking for being so bad. We're not. And you're not. But I have no idea how people on absolutely opposite ends of the spectrum can talk about anything when one side spends all of the time being incredulous that the rest of us can't see what they see. (Hint: I'm talking about you.)
Now we may well have jumped on you a little bit over the alcohol thing, but we get a lot of that around here. People who found jesus when they were at the end of their rope and who can't figure out why we haven't too. I've had my bad days. Dead friends and relatives, injury, lost jobs, lost girlfriends, stuff stolen, a broken iPod and a few favorite tv shows cancelled. No combination of events has ever put me in such a funk that I needed outside help in the form of some unseeable being who loves me or else. I've never been so down in the dumps over anything that I needed a boost from invisible forces that don't do anything. I am a sane person who understands that sh*t happens and I learned long ago not to take it personal.
But your preachy efforts seem to assume I'm lost or looking or wanting or needing or hoping or seeking or something. None of those apply. And not only that, I have a perfectly workable and alternative explanations for reality that doesn't require a single deity. Yours or anyone else's.
I'm sixty years old and this summer will be the 50th anniversary of my atheism. I've never had a doubt and never had to have a doubt. I understand that I'm old enough that I could keel over any minute and I'm not worried about it. If I find out this year that I have the big C or a faulty ticker or my brain starts disintegrating, so be it. I have no illusion that I am in enough control of reality to avoid fates that others endure. And I'm not afraid. And I'm not looking for a "truth" that doesn't match reality.
Live with it.
Edit: I know I just posted something serious, but I just saw that we have a new member named darthpeanut113, and I have the voice of Alvin the Chipmunk saying "I am your father, Luke" stuck in my head. So whoever you are, please post something so I can at least hear what you type like.
I am not threatening you with anything. I actually believe your missing out on something special by choice. No threats here Buddy. Not everyone has had a bad day. You may be one of those people. IDK. I can't say that I have and that is not when I "found Jesus". My relationship started earlier than that but that situation did indeed increase my faith in Him. I don't know you or what kind of person you are. Only people who really know you and it gets more personal than that even.
I have a serious problem with religion. Not people though.
And I understand your unwillingness to convert to any religion much less surrender to a GOD you don't know. My relationship has been heartfelt and sincere with love. Always with love.
Tell me this....? Is it GOD shoving hell and damnation down your throats or is it other people saying it...? Or other people pointing fingers...? Lets see, am I supposed to where green underwear today. Is it 10 Our father's or 20 Hail Mary's...? All girls must remain silent in Church.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seriously, all the wars declared in The name of GOD is ridiculous. I could never condone that nor the actions of people who rape and molest children.
Seriously dude. I went through that hell alone and GOD saved me from it. Not this in particular but the religious aspects of it. He still is in ways.
It's more a matter of the heart. So, hey... yes I will tell you the truth and say that it saddens me that you do not wish to know GOD. But I know that My GOD is loving, merciful, forgiving and graceful. And yes, He is willing.
And all He has been saying all along is...
To love GOD with all of your heart, soul, strength and understanding.
And the other is just like it.
Love your neighbor as your self.
And to His disciples. Who He taught a lesson in love to....
Love each other as I have loved you.
That is why I love the parable of the good Samaritan. It sums it up pretty nicely. Jesus actually rebukes the religious Priest but commends the lowly Samaritan for helping His neighbor. Heck, He could have been anyone. Gay, straight, white, black, latino. Jesus never mention religious affiliation other than the Priest and Levites who did not help this man. Only that a "man" had been beaten and robbed. Or the other nugget about what Jesus says about what religion pleases the Father. Basically helping the needy and the poor. Unselfish acts of love to regular people. Never mentioning any religious affiliation.
Yet you guys say you believe in all of these same things that Jesus was saying the whole time. And said it was these things that pleases GOD. And you do not know Him...?
He came forgiving sins and helping the sick and the poor. Rebuking the religious self righteous hypocrites who could not keep the entire laws themselves.
He never denied GOD though.