Well actually the only prophecies that I acknowledge are those made by the Bible, which of the ones that already happened ALL OF THEM CAME TRUE. All the prophecies about Jesus' first coming all came true and the prophecies about the destruction of Jerusalem came true as well. Of course you will probably just say thats because the Bible was written after the destruction of Jerusalem, but it wasn't. And you say you want our prophecies to do good. How about all the times Jesus told his followers to go and help the needy and all that. Also our prophecies are to inform people how to get to Heaven, which is a GOOD place, so they prophecies are for GOOD.
Always love to see someone resort to caps. No prophecies have come true from your bible. No matter how much you want to stomp your feet and pout. Like so many Christians, you pick and choose what you want from the Jewish myths to make your supposed messiah. And you are ignorant enough to think that no one notices. The jewish messiah was to rebuilt the temple, was to be respected by all world leaders, etc, etc. All which your supposed messiah, Jesus Christ, fails. It’s so bad that Christians have had to make up a “Second Coming” to excuse how badly the “prophecies” don’t match.
The bible was written piecemeal with people around the 4th century finally decideing what books should be included, and rejecting others, all with the usual magic decoder rings that all theists have. Show me concrete evidence that the nonsense in your book wasn’t written after the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. I have no reason to accept your baseless assertions.
When I say I want prophecies to do good, I want them to save lives, not make some imaginary promise that there will be some magical afterlife. Many other religions do the same thing and there’s no way to know if their promises come true. So your religions claims about your heaven are just as nonsensical as those other religions. Or are you willing to agree that the Muslim’s paradise with the 72 virgins, the Hindu concept of reincarnation, etc are all just as valid as your religion’s claims? I’m guessing not, but I’ll wait for your answer. I do like how you just hand wave away any good that comes from helping the needy.
I don't agree with that. Jesus says that wide is the gate that leads to destruction and narrow is the way that leads to life. I think that the true christians are not in any one religion, granted they have to have the basic necessities of salvation by the believe in Jesus and the forsaking of sins. But I believe many will be saved, Catholics, Protestants, however those of false religions such as wicca, Mormonism, and other cults will not be saved, unless they believed what I said earlier but if they did they would not belong to these false religions. No one denomination is right and there are many corrupt leaders in power. It is all about what the Bible says!
That’s good that you don’t agree with Christians claiming that quanitity equals quantity, but as always you are one Christian who is sure that those “other Christians” are wrong, and again have no evidence to show that your nonsense is any more valid than theirs. Oh and I do love how you claim that the LDS, Wicca are “false religions”. Please do show me how they are false and yours is true. And what does the bible say, jakec47? Does it say that you should give up all you have to follow Jesus, depending on God to given you anything you’ll need? Does it say that Christians should all live communally, sharing all they have? Does it say that homosexual deserve death? Or that women are to be silent and not teach any male anything, that women are only “saved” in childbirth? Does it say that God has chosen who he will save and that unless one is allowed by God, one can *never* be saved? You see, there are Christian sects who all say such thing and who all claim that the bible and the “holy spirit” has told them what their god “really” meant. And all of them have no better evidence than the next that they are the “right” ones. You think that the Seventh Day Adventist way is the only “right” way, that their prophecies are “true”, but I have no reason to think you are any more authentic than the Mormons, or the Baptists or the Roman Catholics.
I only said clearing land mines was wasting my life because you implied that if I wanted to die i should do that. Obviously whoever does that is a brave soul who deserves honor and respect. And I haven't used reasons why I dont need to do anything. And I would appreciate it if you would stop called me "Christian" and start calling me "Jake" since that is my name. I am an individual and yes I am a Christian but there are so many Christians who have wondered off the right path that it makes the term Christian imply I am one of those individuals. I don't make things up about my God. If I wanted to clear landmines God would be okay with that since I'm doing it for the good of others, same for police officer, I don't decide whats offensive to him, he does thats why i follow him. If i followed myself i'd be an ethical egoist. And again i state that I DO NOT make things up about God, if he says it that he says it, i do not support any putting of words in God's mouth.
Are you not a Christian, Jakec47? So, I call you that. I am sorry if your actions and that of your fellow Christians makes it an unpleasant thing to be called. YOU can calle me "geologist" if you want, since I'm that too. You are an individual.
Yes, you are, an individual who repeats the same old theistic nonsense with nothing to support his claims. I asked you how you explained accepting one dangerous job over another to your god. In either, taking such job could be seen to be wanting to die, but it’s an awful lot more convenient for you to be a police officer in the US than doing hard work in a third world country.
It’s typical to see you, a Christian, be so sure that any Christian who doesn’t agree with you is not on the “right path”, again a repetition that you think you do somehow have the “right” path. You think your version of your god is the “right” one and without any evidence, you have indeed made things up about it. It’s not suprising at all that you declare that your god would be okay with if *you* decided to clear land mines. Your god always agrees with you doesn’t he? You want to be a police officer so god is “good” with that.
Now let’s look at what you claim fulfills prophecy:
Immediately you assume to be right after what happens, how much after, maybe 1 hour, 1 day. Well first of all God does not work on the same time scale as you or I immediately to him is when this stuff happened. Those prophecies were referring to what would happen many years (for us) after the destruction of Jerusalem. The sun and moon were darkened on May 19, 1780 in what is known as New England's Dark Day. I'll let you look that up. During the middle of the day and continuing to the middle of the next day it was so dark they had to use candles. And it was not an eclipse, some say it was a wild fire, I don't know if that true, maybe God used that fire to do that, or maybe since it was so dark and I hardly see how any smoke from a fire could cover so far a range and for so long and make it so dark. Does seem possible, not to mention nothing like that has ever happened before or yet.
Ah, the usual attempts by a Christian to randomly pick events that might be kind of similar to their myths. Who cares about when they happen! And the usual attempts to claim that your god is on some magical time table, so you can pick and choose what time period “really” equals a day. Nice making up something about your god right here, Jakec47. It also makes you seem that you have no idea what the word “immediately” means, and like so many desperate Christians want to play pretend that no interpreter has ever gotten your bible “right’.
You haven’t anything that can show that your claims are the right ones. The darkening of the sky, [wiki] New England's Dark Day[/wiki] has plenty of easy explanations, no god needed, and a very narrow portion of the earth experienced it, belying the nonsense in your bible. If you want to make such claims, then why not the various times in Pittsburgh, PA where it became so dark in the city that street lights needed to be put on, when the soot and smoke from the iron furnaces was so bad? http://digital.library.pitt.edu/images/pittsburgh/smokecontrol.html
one in particular: http://images.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/i/image/image-idx?rgn1=hpicasc_ci;med=1;q1=AIS.1978.22;size=20;c=hpicasc;back=back1331304983;subview=detail;resnum=19;view=entry;lastview=thumbnail;cc=hpicasc;entryid=x-scls011;viewid=SCLS011.TIF
by this your nonsense could have also “happened” in the 1940s.
For someone who claims such faith, you sure are desperate for *any* pathetic attempts at creating evidence.
And the stars falling from heaven was in The Great Leonid Meteor Storm of 1833, which again nothing like it has happened before or since. You can see info about it here http://spacescience.spaceref.com/newhome/headlines/ast22jun99_2.htm.
Wow, from the bible which has all of these things happening at once, you decide that the events can be sperated by 50 years! Why not say that this, [wiki] Late Heavy Bombardment[/wiki] was the “stars” falling? The fact is that your bible was written by people who didn’t know what meteors were and who really thought “stars” were falling. Heck, my great grandmother thought the world was going to end because she saw auroras, the entire sky lit a blood red. Didn’t end though. Saying something hasn’t happened the same since is no reason to think it can’t. What happens if it does happen again even better this time, Jakec47? Where will your religion be?
You repeatedly claim that “God doesn’t work like that”. That’s just you again making claims about your god so you can excuse it. Christians often do that, declare that their god doesn’t do something when it’s inconvenient.
The bible says that one can tell true prophecy if it comes true. My how convenient, a book that says that it’s true and that’s all of the evidence we have that it is true. That’s called circular reasoning, Jakec47, and if you think you have any chance at all at becoming a police detective, you need to know how to think and not use logical fallacies like this. I know that most schools don’t teach this stuff and they should. To get familiar with many logical fallacies, including many common ones that Christians use, I would suggest you really study this website: http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/