“I've crossed out the meaningless parts. If you have evidence for a claim, back up the claim. If you don't, then admit that you do not.”
-I’ll do what I can. In the end I’m going to do what I want and it may make you satisfied and it may not. I have no control over that.
“You are over generalizing an entire community based on responses that you won't even explain or cite examples for. You no more qualify that then you qualify the assertion that sarcasm renders an argument invalid. We have no means to even determine your conclusions follow logically or rationally, much less why they were made in the first place.”
-As a general rule, I would agree with you. But everyone, except you (and maybe one other) accepted, understood and agreed about this specific debate about using sarcasm. So people got it, would you agree? I am a bit more relaxed and conversational in my style, so I’m not going to be top heavy with evidence especially with regards to an opinion that is purely subjective. Again, I will do what I can, but most of the issues I engage real life opinions/assertions that have been influenced by my faith. I will offer reasons why I think so, and either you agree or don’t.
“Do you understand that if you are going to do nothing but the standard theist make claims/fail to substantiate shuffle, you will be met with sarcasm at least?”
-Yes, but I thought opinion, subjective statement, like I did, is less provable. It’s opinion. If I make a claim, like “God exists” I will provide evidence as I see fit.
“I am of the school of thought that a person can "catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." My goal is to get people to think critically, to get them to decide their worldview for themselves rather than simply accepting what they've been taught.”
-I think we agree on this point. We come to different conclusions, but we have a similar style.
“What is important is to understand that BSD MAN did not come here to gain truth or enlightenment about the nature of reality or to expand his mind. He came here to study atheists, to learn their ways...what makes them tick. His whole approach is skewed from the very beginning because he seems to treat the atheist as a mere curiosity. “ Respectfully, this is contradictory to me. Isn’t studying a subject a desire to gain truth? I may not personally ever agree with people here on many points, but I will (and I have) gained knowledge merely by being a part of this forum since ’06. I’ve learned a lot. I’ve learned WHY you have come to many of the atheist conclusions, I don’t agree with them, but I am searching and exposing myself to them. I also appreciate your black/white analogy.
“Was wondering what other forums you were visiting (atheist, Christian)?
In those other forums, and if not sarcastic conversations, what were the results? Anyone ever converted or de-converted?”
-I visited atheistthinktank.com for a while, until it ran into problems. I have been searching for atheist forums but they all seemed to run into technical problems for one reason or another (why is this?). I don’t care for Christian forums much, unless I am searching for answers to really difficult doctrinal questions. I don’t like debating in them, either, because there is no real degree of difficulty or cooky crazy people that I find vastly different from me or interesting. I debate solely in atheist forums, but not much of it since ’09.
“You come here and try to claim that you know all about the catholic church and how wonderful it is, how it’s the only real Christianity. However, since you have no evidence that this is the case”
-Evidence and you refuse to acknowledge any evidence to the contrary, this is you blowing hot air. We could have discussions about how the Jedi activate their light sabers, is it just a button or do you need to have the Force, but since it’s imaginary, there’s no reason to take anything seriously. Since you have the same problem, why should you think anyone should take you seriously or respect your nonsense?”
-I guess this is the problem I have with you, Velkyn, and not necessarily the forum, because many here engage the issue at hand while leaving my religion out of the debate. I have not come here as a blazing firebrand to attack the “heathens” here. That is not my strength nor my desire. If you try to get me off topic, you will be disappointed. You have ignored my OP and gone for the throat, which is my religion (again, NOT in the OP). I made no assertion regarding anything but the subject of sarcasm, and you hijack this post and take it to a different place. Do I really have to prove God’s existence in every post / thread as a qualifier to engage in this forum? What if I don’t feel like it? Show forum rules as evidence that I have to.