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Hello, my name is Gin
« on: February 28, 2012, 11:52:52 PM »
Hello..
Sorry for my bad english, English is not my primary language.

Name : Gin
Sex : Yes Please! (lol, Austin Powers style. All the joke aside, i'm male btw)
Location : Small country in south-east Asia called Indonesia..
Job : Architect (When i had no assignment like this, actually it means that my boss paying me to post in this forum, lol)

A little history about me :

Age : 4 - 12
I'm the "Invisible" type of kid. Always stay in class, never make a sound.
Teachers usually never noticed me. I look kinda weak, so mean kid usually picks me. (What a nice childhood)
My parents is the type who doesn't really care about religions, so they just pick the closest school.
So they put me in one of the local Christian School.
So, Christian Religion is one major part of study there.
I remembered i had to study Bible for exam.
What a douchebag principals.

Age : 12 - 18
Junior, senior high school... Again, my parents pick the closest one.
This time i spend 6 years in private school, and guess what, religions is also the part of major study.
At least the students got to choose.
Because i know nothing of the other religions, i had to choose Christian.
Again, i had to study Bible for exams, but worse,
There is this retreat camp each year, which we are going to dirty and muddy forest to make campfire.
Sing, and dance (Don't imagine that prom thing), this is horrible.
But because i'm "Invisible", i survived the whole thing. 6 years straight.

I had to admit. When i was younger.
There was a time... I DO believe in God. I DO pray. I DO wish something to happened.
When it does happen, i thank God.
When it doesn't, i said to myself "I'm sorry for my ignorance, thy will be done"

Age : 18 - present
During my time in college, i finally found my true calling.
Not Christian, not any other religion, but Atheist. (Yaayyy)

It's all started with a book i found in my room.
It was my brother's, i often saw him read it.
One day, i really got nothing better to do, i saw that book just laying there on my desk. So i read it.

All i can say is, this book change my life.
It changes everything i have learned so far.
everything is makes sense, Very rational, Very scientific.
(I't not a book about satanism or a cult mind you)
It's just a book about some Buddhist priest asking questions for Christians.
By the time i finished that book, that's the time i realize.

"This is what i am..."

So, the thing that drives me away from Christianism is not dissapointment for God, or anything like that.
It's just simply i found something suits me better.

And then, the problem begins right here.
From that turning point of my life...
I had difficult time with my relationship.
All my crush always said "I only want to go out with people who already accept and loves Jesus"

If just a few girl say it, then maybe it's just them.
But if ALL of the Christian Girl saying it!!! Then there's just something f*cking wrong with their religion!
How could they be so discriminating!
If i don't believe, then i'm a bad guy. They choose to be with some loser and cheating kind of guy, as long he go to church.
Then i finally found out, it's all because of that f*cking priest who farted every sunday to brainwashed them.
Told to love everyone, but make sure to burn people who doesn't accept Jesus.
My friends in college called me "The Devil".

Then... I've got no choice, i had to put my Religion MASK.
I go to church, i fake pray, i fake Spirit Languange, i fake my tears.
And guess what???? It worked!!!

I get my girlfriend that way...
Too bad it ended because she found out that i am an Atheist.

Then i tried to do the same thing over again (They love the whole redemption thing)
Guess what, got another girlfriend...
But this time, she's trying to "SAVE" me by making me believe.
The ending is the same though..
It ended with her saying "You are beyond saving, i can't save you. Please accept Jesus before it's too late"
Then she left me..

Does anybody want to laugh?
I didn't drink, i didn't smoke, i didn't beat her, i didn't cheat on her
Yes i lied to her about me, when actually i'm an atheist.
But come on!!!

The only thing i have to say about religions is

"YOU ONLY SEE WHAT YOU WANTED TO SEE"


For final words.

I'm so glad i found this forum...
This place feels like home. Somewhere i really belong.

Sorry for bad english
And my story will continue if anyone's interesed..
« Last Edit: February 29, 2012, 12:07:48 AM by freakygin »
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2012, 12:11:12 AM »
Welcome Gin.

I doesn't matter if your english is perfect or not. You are perfectly understandable.

No need to be invisible here. We have lots of conversations going on at any given time, and there is bound to be one you will want to join in on.

What sort of architect are you? What do you design. I'm a carpenter in the states (when there is work) and i get to make the things architects draw up. I like my job better, except that I can't post on this forum while I'm at work. You're lucky  ;D

Most of us on the forum are Americans. It really helps to get input from non-Americans. How else are we going to know how dumb we are if nobody tells us. We are so full of sh*t, yet we think we're great. We need people like  you to tell us the truth.

If Rick Santorum gets elected president of the United States, he is such a fundamentalist christian that I'm pretty sure I'll have to leave the country. I may end being your neighbor or something.

Again, welcome Gin. Stick around. It's fun.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2012, 12:38:20 AM »
Hahaha, thanks for the warm welcome.

About the architect thing, my job is to draw the finishing materials applied on buildings.
Natural stones to be exact. (Marbles, Granites, etc)
Using 3D software, that kind of stuff. Nothing fancy.

Do u mind if i say Americans sometimes a bit paranoid (No offense) , they build the embassy thing in my town (Which coincidentally i was assigned by my office to participate in their building's finishing material)
when i had to get inside to look at the site.
I had to get retina scan, passed several metal detector wear nothing but my pants.
Ask for my neighbour signature to make a statement "Yes, Gin is really my neighbour"
Ask for local police statement "yes, Gin is live in that area"
Whew... I mean, what the hell it's all about?

Btw, i'm sorry for Out of Topic moment  ;)

And yes, i think i'll stick around. I love this forum already.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2012, 01:13:45 AM »
greetings fellow earthling


.......good intro stories mate, sounds as though you just need to find an atheist for a partner instead of a theist, then you would not need to compromise yourself at all...

hope to see you around Gin ......... :)
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2012, 01:26:24 AM »
Hello freak...welcome to the show :)
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2012, 01:37:01 AM »
@jaybwell32
Hello there, i am enjoying myself here

@kin hell
Well, i really wish it was that easy.

In my country. Atheist considered very rare breed, they called me possessed by the Devil, Demon, whatever sounds bad.
Everyone (Especially the young womens) are mostly a fanatics.

To tell you the truth, tonight i'll go to my friend house (Women of course).
She held some kind of weekly praying session.
Sharing session.
Sings and dance (Stupid)
Read biblical verse (Which i already forgot in 5 seconds flat)
Pray at night.
It's a torture for me.

The ONLY reason i'm willing to go is because she's still single.
And i thought maybe i can persuade her to become Atheist like me.

When they started to get "Spiritual", i often make fun of them (Politely).
Which end up they think i'm possessed by Devil. So they (12 people)  pray for me so God may forgive me.
They pray so i can see and accept Jesus...
Right now, i'm pretty sure she think of me as "VIP Ticket" to go to Heaven.
As if she can make me become religious again, then she already save my soul.

Trying to find another Atheist (Women)
Is just like finding a needle in haystack.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2012, 02:58:24 AM »
They pray so i can see and accept Jesus...

Have you tried looking at toast? ;)

Welcome Gin,
Good luck on the wifehunt.
BTW, if this is BAD English, I'd like to see what good English is.
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Faith: I'll see it when I believe it

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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2012, 03:17:56 AM »
Wifehunt.. lol
Do know how does it feel to be a chick in crocodile's nest?
I am an Atheist in a religious country.

I need to breed my kind XD
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2012, 03:27:51 AM »
Heya, Gin. Welcome to our little community; glad you already find it to your liking.

Thanks for the autobiography. FWIW (For what it's worth), my sympathies about the bullying. I was a shy kid too, but bigger / taller than most and taught by my parents that fighting was always bad, so bullies found me a good target as well. Glad things are getting better for you.

Interesting story about you becoming an atheist. Do you remember the title of that book? My sister and her husband are more Buddhist than anything; it always struck me as a very common-sense religion. If I had to choose one again (was a Christian for 15 years), Buddhism would probably be it.

No offense taken by this USAmerican that we sometimes seem paranoid; it's true enough. Comes from being a superpower that's begun to realize it's losing its edge.

BTW, if this is BAD English, I'd like to see what good English is.

Agreed. Trust me, freakygin: for a second language, your grasp of English is very good.

Be seeing you.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2012, 03:44:32 AM »
Gee, thanks..  ;D

About the book. How could i forget..
It's a book that changed my life and made me decide to be an Atheist.

Beyond Belief (Author : AL de Silva)

If you're interested, maybe there is a PDF version of it somewhere.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2012, 04:19:47 AM »
Found it!
http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/beyond-belief02.pdf

Thanks, freakygin. I will check it out and tell you what I think of it...
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #11 on: February 29, 2012, 10:00:34 AM »
Found it!
http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/beyond-belief02.pdf

Thanks, freakygin. I will check it out and tell you what I think of it...

Not a bad book!  Yep, I read it!

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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 10:07:41 AM »
Welcome!

[monkeychatter]I like Indonesia. All my tennies come from there! :)[/monkeychatter]
Truthfinder:the birds adapt and change through million of years in order to survive ,is that science, then cats should evolve also wings to better catch the birds
Mailbag:On a side note, back in college before my conversion, I actually saw a demon sitting next to me in critical thinking class.

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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 10:21:47 AM »
welcome, Gin.   I think your English is fine.  If you want help with it, just ask, but I think we can understand you well enough. 

I think there's another person from your part of the world on here, but his screen name escapes me.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2012, 11:21:02 AM »
@ jetson, monkeymind, velkyn

Thank you all for your warm welcome.
Now in my country it's already 11.30 PM.
Tomorrow i'm going to check each sub forum

This forum is really interesting and fun.
It feels really great u know, to finally meet "my kind".
In my country, people would curse and never talk to me again just because i throw my Bible to kill a cockroach.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #15 on: February 29, 2012, 11:36:19 AM »
Do u mind if i say Americans sometimes a bit paranoid (No offense) , they build the embassy thing in my town (Which coincidentally i was assigned by my office to participate in their building's finishing material)
when i had to get inside to look at the site.
I had to get retina scan, passed several metal detector wear nothing but my pants.
Ask for my neighbour signature to make a statement "Yes, Gin is really my neighbour"
Ask for local police statement "yes, Gin is live in that area"
Whew... I mean, what the hell it's all about?

Btw, i'm sorry for Out of Topic moment  ;)

You noticed. The only thing America is really good at these day is paranoia.  But we've got it down to a science.

Sorry we're so silly. I think we will stay that way for a long, long time.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #16 on: February 29, 2012, 05:49:22 PM »
Welcome aboard!!

Quick question. I thought Indonesia was the largest Muslim country in the world, how is it that school made you be a christian?

And yes, everyone here is paranoid.. we think someone is out to get us because they "hate our freedom" and we have McDonalds... its embarrassing really.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #17 on: February 29, 2012, 07:36:01 PM »
Good Morning (It's 7:00 AM in my Country)

Not really... I always thought Saudi Arabia is the largest muslim country.

In Indonesia, the people is around 200++ million
Back then in the 90' the muslims would be 95%, the 5% is the rest combined.

I'm not sure about the numbers now.
In 2012, i think the Christian percentage is getting larger.
They have really good advertising u know.

Oh u know how Chistian is, they build super lux church with big screen and stereo system.
I remember that one time, somebody just call me (How the hell they even got my number???) and ask me to go to church.
They even willing to pick me up from my house. See? They even provide transport.
Plus sometimes they invited a pop singer / movie star.
That really drive the chicks go crazy.

I'm pretty sure 75% of the dudes in church are actually people like me.
Trying to "Hunt".
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #18 on: February 29, 2012, 09:13:57 PM »
Don't worry about your English, it's just fine. If only people in the U.S. could speak a 2nd. language as well as you do. Or even English for that matter.
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #19 on: February 29, 2012, 10:02:12 PM »
Thank you.
I guess watching those hollywood movies really pays off. ;D
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2012, 03:30:06 AM »
Thank you.
I guess watching those hollywood movies really pays off. ;D

Lol ... I know the feeling, 7 years of French in school left me little better than "Je ... tu ... il ... passé composé"
2 months of watching Saint Saiya on French TV had me fluent like a native (a very drunk native, probably  :-\  ;) )
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Faith: I'll see it when I believe it

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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2012, 04:01:49 AM »
The only french sentence i know is

Voulez vouz coucher avec moi  ;D

XD XD XD
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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2012, 09:13:04 AM »
I'm pretty sure 75% of the dudes in church are actually people like me.
Trying to "Hunt".
may your scope be precise lol

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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2012, 04:40:25 PM »
Welcome.  I actually went to Bali 2 summers ago. It was beautiful. Unfortunately, I got the dreaded "Bali belly"  I have never been that sick in my life.   :(

I thought Indonesia was pretty strict on enforcing islam (with the exception of Bali)  I guess if there are large churches there, I was obviously wrong.  Do the christians and other religions (and atheists) face persecution from the muslim population or the government at all?  Just curious

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Re: Hello, my name is Gin
« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2012, 09:05:21 PM »
Back then, yes.
The muslims was very racist.

For now, not really, but the muslims still tends to do as they please.
For example, when they held an event or something in their house.
They often just close the road, blocked the street around the block, something like that.
And we have to turn around or wait until they finish.
Not to mention they turn on their music REALLY loud.

EDIT :
About Atheist in my country.
Maybe there are many. But i think they're hiding.
Just like me, i wear my Religion MASK.
Because if i said it out loud, people will come at me like Homing Missile.
Trying to save my soul.
« Last Edit: March 01, 2012, 10:19:31 PM by freakygin »
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