I have been following this closely. Your two main points seem to be that videos aren't allowed and that lucifer used certain words that you weren't happy with.
1) both of you have to follow the video rule. It's not like HAL thinks this is some clever ruse to discredit your arguments in favour of atheism.
no one is going to watch an hour long documentary anyway. Do you not see that posting your interpretations of the videos will be much more effective than just posting a video anway?
2) these words were not directed at you and in my opinion were not unwarranted. If he believes a source to be *insert word here* then should he not have the right to express that? If you have a problem with it, you should address that in your next post in the debate, explaining why that source isn't *insert word here*
It just kind of seems to me as if you have built us up in your head as some kind of alliance that is conspiring against you. This is not the case at all.
I think parkingplaces was spot on earlier and to be honest I didn't really understand your response:
Not my feelings, but each one can understand my words as they see fit to their belief.can you explain this please?
Well, I came here trying to debate with the comunity about my reasons to believe in God, but people started bashing, insulting, spamming and flamming me, not only with words, but also with negative Darwings, you can check this topic, and reasons why I got in 2 days 10 negative Darwins:http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php/topic,21563.0.html
Now, I asked for a debate with one person and since the very beginning people took it as a joke, regardless of the arguments I gave to explain the importance of such debate, you can see how people react on this topic:http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php/topic,21579.0.html
So, between the bully posts and rush I was forced to pick someone, even against my opinion I choose Lucifer because most people were supporting him to represent them, also certain basic rules were set, those rules were the same as those this comunity "should" follow, and those of a civil debate.
You can also see what was going to be the name of the debate, which I was asked to determine more than once, then the name was arbitrary set, just to mock me. Nevertheless I ignored that and came to reply Lucifer.
After that, a lot of members started bashing in this topic in every single page, nothing was done about it. They critize that I didn't wrote my argument as a "legit" way to dismiss it, and so new rules were born:
- I "shouldn't" post anything that I dont create.
- If I post something from another source I should post a link (even when Lucifer didn't do the same in his first post).
- I cannot post youtube videos (even when this is not in the rules.
On top of that, Lucifer's response was not following the simple rules we set, and he was not penalized for that, when I responded to those facts, my post was deleted, "because it was offtopic" such thing follows an invisible rule, and my post was not offtopic.
What I asked was merely for equality but it was too much to ask.Why do I say this atheism is like a religion?
Because in this forum, just like in any religious forum, people bash with hate those who hold a different belief, and they're mercilesly undermined with hate and mock. Because they twist rules or logic in favor of their beliefs, and even because there are some people who "advice" not to listen those who think differently.
At the end, people choose to follow atheism, for the most part, based not in reason but in emotions, just like in any religion. And so, my words sound empty and stupid to them, just like christian words can seem just the same to a muslim or a jew. No room for reason, no respect, no decency when comes to protect your beliefs.
Therefore, I consider this to be the worst religion ever, because it have no god and no rules whatsoever, not even rules to break, no room for regret, no nothing but wild actions driven by emotional, brainwashed people.
People have the ability to believe, to follow, and no atheist can avoid being like that. It is present since the beginning of humanity, in every culture. People just "believe in something", so what do I have to say to your beliefs, to your faith? if such "religion" were to take over, world would become anarchy. That's what I think. We need a moral code, and atheists cannot offer that, they cannot even make people free from believing, they will, instead, turn to atheism as their new faith and find it have no system, therefore, anarchy will reign.
Basically, believers think they're superior to others because their religion is true and they will go to heaven, plus, they're not just animals, they're the offpring of God. By the other side, atheist believe they are superior to others because they're smarter, they hold the truth, and the rest are just stupid lambs. Truth is, people is people, and atheists are no different from theists, well, theists have moral codes and try hard to be good.
Moreover, just think of the meaning of Lucifer and I. Think if that's what you want for you and your loved ones. A nick that represents everything that is evil and dirty, no matter what the bible says, Lucifer means evil, and this person uses that nick because atheists have NO RULES, no moral stablished and accepted, and it's not just his nick, but also the way he thinks and acts. To him I am trash, my arguments are trash, and we, believers are inferior.
This is not only supported by him, but pretty much everyone in the comunity agrees with him and acts just the same. This proves my point, turning this "comunity" into a very dangerous one, even more dangerous than muslims. Also, this fits pretty good with prophecies of God. That's right, there are no proofs of God's existence, therefore, follow insanity and ruin your life, but remember: there are no proofs of God's non-existence either.