The point here, in case you have forgotten or lost track, is that you, Lukvance, are trying to equate "god" with "love"Ah, that is your point, not mine.
My point have already been made and is directly related to the topic of this thread. The existence of God is as probable than the existence of love (or hate).
For me, God is more than love. He is perfect in every way, he is the one who knows me the most.
I disagree with the fact that without humans, wind would exist. What kind of proof do you have to support this claim?
To the above, I'd say spheres
. The fact is you have not idea what you are talking ab out or you are being obstructive and it doesn't much matter which it is.
1. Love is an emotion - it happens in the brains for those who 'fall in love' for example. All your silly examples of love disembodied, like marks on trees or faces in the moon, and nothing more that something someone who is in love has done. Love is an emotion and has not separate existence apart from the mind of the person doing the loving. You have been asked by various people to show us that love actually exists separate from people and you have failed, yet we know that some people love each other so we know there is something we call love.
For the grammatical, love is an abstract noun. Abstract nouns
are not concrete things and have existence in our minds only. Which brings me to ....
2. God. Now, what is the evidence for god... hang on, I remember, its an old book isn't it. It discusses events from more than 2,000 years ago - has to as nothing worth mentioning has happen in the activity of god since! We can't know any more about god than that old book says. Yet, 'god' is supposed to be a concrete noun.... Hang on, wait a sec, I've an idea....
Let's call 'god' and abstract noun - believers say their god dwells within them and this proves it! God is an idea in their brains and doesn't need any separate existence. Indeed, he doesn't seem to have any separate existence. This doesn't seem to get us anywhere much, but it does so much more than it looks. It explains how each believer has a difference idea of the their god (well, if the god is in their own mind, it can be anything the believer wants. It thus explains why there are so many sects and denominations all claiming to be Christian (more or less.) Most importantly, it explains why there have never been any manifestations of any god, in any way, apart from the people, usually priests in the old days, who claimed to know a god.
So then, we have two abstract nouns - love and god. Both really exist but, of course, Luk, only in the mind with no concrete existence anywhere. Does that suit you, Luk? You get to have love and god with real meanings!