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Re: Probabilities of God's existence debate
« Reply #1276 on: Today at 04:19:57 PM »
So are you positing, with no evidence, of course, that it is possible to have a universe where there is no Catholic god? Where, for example, Allah made the world and Islam is the correct religion?

I hope you realize where this leads......

How do you know that we are not living in that universe right now? :?
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: Probabilities of God's existence debate
« Reply #1277 on: Today at 04:45:15 PM »
So are you positing, with no evidence, of course, that it is possible to have a universe where there is no Catholic god? Where, for example, Allah made the world and Islam is the correct religion?

I hope you realize where this leads......

How do you know that we are not living in that universe right now? :?

precisely the point.  if an infinite amount of universes exist, then every possible configuration has to manifest itself.

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Re: Probabilities of God's existence debate
« Reply #1278 on: Today at 04:51:20 PM »
So are you positing, with no evidence, of course, that it is possible to have a universe where there is no Catholic god? Where, for example, Allah made the world and Islam is the correct religion?

I hope you realize where this leads......

How do you know that we are not living in that universe right now? :?

precisely the point.  if an infinite amount of universes exist, then every possible configuration has to manifest itself.

You forgot "an infinite amount of times" in your last sentence. The number of possible configurations, while absurdly huge, is still finite. That means that, according to Lukvance, there are infinite Allahs, infinite YHWHs, infinite Zeuses, and so on.
The truth is absolute. Life forms are specks of specks (...) of specks of dust in the universe.
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Re: Probabilities of God's existence debate
« Reply #1279 on: Today at 04:54:47 PM »
Fine then. If an infinite amount of possiblities exist...

Then there is a universe where god exists and doesn't exist at the same time. People exist and not exist at the same time. Air exists and doesnt exist at the same time. The universe exists and doesn't at the same time.

After all, infinite possiblities.
"God is just and fair"
*God kills 2.5 million of people he KNEW would turn out like this in the flood*
*Humanity turns bad again, when God knew it would*
We should feel guilty for this.

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Re: Probabilities of God's existence debate
« Reply #1280 on: Today at 05:17:34 PM »
So are you positing, with no evidence, of course, that it is possible to have a universe where there is no Catholic god? Where, for example, Allah made the world and Islam is the correct religion?

I hope you realize where this leads......

How do you know that we are not living in that universe right now? :?

precisely the point.  if an infinite amount of universes exist, then every possible configuration has to manifest itself.

You forgot "an infinite amount of times" in your last sentence. The number of possible configurations, while absurdly huge, is still finite. That means that, according to Lukvance, there are infinite Allahs, infinite YHWHs, infinite Zeuses, and so on.

It also means that there is an infinitely large chance that whatever god we worship is the wrong one for our universe. We have an infinitely small chance of guessing the right god to worship, since we still don't have any evidence as to which god is running the universe we happen to be in. The signs we think are pointing to Brahma are the exact same signs that someone else sees as surefire proof of Allah, or Jehovah or Zeus. 

If anyone actually believes in this, they would have to be arrogant in the extreme to think that they somehow happen to have chosen the correct god for their universe. They would have to be very selective in what they consider to be evidence, because they would have to rule out the possibility that they are infinitely wrong. They would have to be--

Lukvance!  There you are, we were just talking about you, buddy..... ;D
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: Probabilities of God's existence debate
« Reply #1281 on: Today at 05:45:59 PM »
So are you positing, with no evidence, of course, that it is possible to have a universe where there is no Catholic god? Where, for example, Allah made the world and Islam is the correct religion?

I hope you realize where this leads......

How do you know that we are not living in that universe right now? :?

precisely the point.  if an infinite amount of universes exist, then every possible configuration has to manifest itself.

You forgot "an infinite amount of times" in your last sentence. The number of possible configurations, while absurdly huge, is still finite. That means that, according to Lukvance, there are infinite Allahs, infinite YHWHs, infinite Zeuses, and so on.

It also means that there is an infinitely large chance that whatever god we worship is the wrong one for our universe. We have an infinitely small chance of guessing the right god to worship, since we still don't have any evidence as to which god is running the universe we happen to be in. The signs we think are pointing to Brahma are the exact same signs that someone else sees as surefire proof of Allah, or Jehovah or Zeus. 

If anyone actually believes in this, they would have to be arrogant in the extreme to think that they somehow happen to have chosen the correct god for their universe. They would have to be very selective in what they consider to be evidence, because they would have to rule out the possibility that they are infinitely wrong. They would have to be--

Lukvance!  There you are, we were just talking about you, buddy..... ;D
Even if we worship the wrong God, that would mean that God exist. (meaning the subject is close)
I could [support my claims], but you wouldn't understand. Others have tried and you can't or won't see it.

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