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Augusto:
I’d like to start by pointing at revelations in the bible; most of them have been proven to become true. So, if anyone would like to shed some light on this, like “maybe all those prophecies have been manipulated after they actually happened” either way, I think WWII allowed Jews to return to their holly land, which is something pretty much unique in history, for we know (as an example) American natives will never recover their land.

Now there is this Jewish Christian group earning popularity, which is making Jesus part of their beliefs in Israel, something most of us would have imagine impossible. And I’m concerned about the possibility of missing reality because of arrogance.

Since nobody can prove God’s existence, neither his non-existence, I would like to discuss on this forum about what is more likely to be the truth.

One Above All:

--- Quote from: Augusto on February 24, 2012, 01:53:42 PM ---I’d like to start by pointing at revelations in the bible; most of them have been proven to become true.

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Which ones?


--- Quote from: Augusto on February 24, 2012, 01:53:42 PM ---Since nobody can prove God’s existence, neither his non-existence,

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Depends on your definition of "god". The biblical YHWH, for example? Disproven ad nauseam.


--- Quote from: Augusto on February 24, 2012, 01:53:42 PM ---I would like to discuss on this forum about what is more likely to be the truth.

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No gods whatsoever is the truth.

Nick:
Didn't it also say He would return within a generation of the Jews going home?  I think a generation has come and gone.  Like Nostradamus...much of the bible is worked and reworked to meet your needs.  Like a few years back when some group thought the bible was coded and could be read with a computer.  My opinion is that there were many god/man sects at that time among the Romans.  None were meant to be taken as historical.  Gnostic (finding the meaning of life stuff) was what they were all about.  But Rome came apart, the church filled the void, books were destroyed and the Dark Ages came about.  All of a sudden we have Jesus as a real person.  The rest is history.

There is no proof for a sky daddy.  Just watching religious people should be proof of that alone.

Augusto:
Your reply (Lucifer) gives no light whatsoever in any point; I already gave some initial arguments, so stop asking questions and offering absolutes.

I do mean YHWH, and just because you know of some immoralities and errors in the bible, doesn't mean he doesn't exist. For we know the nature of people, and people were those who wrote the bible, all of them Jews, which were compared to a whore by God himself, therefore, any errors and evil claims related to God are most likely related to Jewish people contaminating the word of God.

Please stop trolling so we can have a real debate. I am not trying to win this, I just want to share the little I know and see what you can tell me (anyone is invited), so we get a common consensus.

ParkingPlaces:
A bunch of jews who thought the land was theirs were trying to take it back long before WWII. After the war they were still killing the British, who controlled it, on a regular basis until the Brits gave up and gave it to them. Proof positive that terrorists win sometimes.

The jews did it because they read that it was theirs in their holy books. And being that they had holy books, the jews took is serious. And killed people, including many innocents,  to get what they wanted. They also kill many innocents every year to keep it. They're happy. And you're happy. I guess that works for some people.

And don't be so sure that the native American's won't get this country back. If they can hold their cultures together while ours disintegrates under the pressure of racial zealots, homophobes, women-haters, bible-bashers and those idiots who advertise overpriced infrared fireplaces on late night TV, they'll get it back soon enough. And I hope so. They were much nicer to these two continents than we have been.

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