Wow, that spurred a lot of talk
So let me try to answer some questions/comments.
- proving that God exists. If you look at a wrist watch, you know it has been made by someone. You don't have to know the person who did it to know it has been created. You look at the universe, by the same way it had to get here someway. Time has to be made by Something outside of time. That would be God.
That would be various gods, to hear their adherents claim the exact same thing. And your god, per your very own bible, has that your god is not outside of time. It depends on action/reaction, it interferes with humans. It’s the usual thoughtless excuse for your god, a claim that ha nothing to support its assertion.
- knowing that the God of the Bible is the One true god. If you look at every world religion, they all say that man can do something to help earn his way to heaven/nirvana, etc....except Christianity, which says that man can do nothing to earn salvation. Man would not make up a religion like this.
Unfortunately for you, your bible does say that man can earn his way into heaven. It also contradicts this. JB, I was a Christian and I have read the bible completely at least twice, once as a believer.
- Christians can't decide if there is a hell or devil. The Bible says there is, so there is.
But Christians just as good as you, with just as much claim to the title, say that there is not, that God didn’t really mean that. Each Christian creates his own version of Christianity, by claiming that they and only they know what God “really” meant. The bible says that one should kill those who work on the Sabbath. Should we? It says that raped women should be forced to marry their attackers. Should they? It says that women should never be allowed to teach men or be allowed to speak in church. Should they?
9. We know what the law is in the first place, in order to determine that we've broken it. - the Law is the Ten Commandments. You can know if you have broken them: have you lied? Have you stolen? Have you put God first always?
oooh, sorry, there JB but the commandments don’t stop at ten. All of them, in Exodus, Leviticus, etc, are for everyone. Again, you should really read your bible and not depend on others to tell you what it says. Since there is no more evidence for your god than oh, Tezcaltipoca or Enlil, there’s no reason to think that these laws are any more than human claims. Let see, JB, have you always
Burden of proof - no, the burden of proof is on you. I have God's Word that He is real. What do you have that He is not?
I have Thor’s word he’s real. Is he?
Pat Robertson as spokesperson - that is my view alone, not Christians all over.
Yep, again Christians can’t agree on much.
Foolish to believe when there is no evidence - I have evidence. Creation is evidence. If you would have known me before Christ came to live in me, then you would have seen other evidence. For those who say "well, I was a Christian and He didn't change me".....no offense, but you weren't really saved.
Yawn, yep, again, all religions claim this and all religions fail at showing that their particular god created anything, much less exists. But, in the bible we can know for sure, JB. Just agree to meet me at a pair of altars and show me that your god exists. Elijah did it and God was all for it. Surely that can work again? But I’m sure you’ll claim that God says not to test him. That’s wrong to since the Bible has him tested repeatedly. Gideon, Thomas, all tests to show that God was real. I do love when people like you claim to be the only real Christians. That means you can also do miracles just like Jesus Christ promised you would. So, JB, how about it? Healings at a local veteran’s hospital should be something anyone would do if they could. I’m more than willing to be your witness. But I’m guessing you can’t do those miracles either; same with your prayers not working.
In 1 Corinthians, God says He uses foolishness to save. If we could do something or explain something out and do anything of our own to save us, then God wouldn't be glorified.
Why yes the bible claims this:
20 Where is the wise person? Where is the teacher of the law? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world? For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.
Hmmm. It took the wisdom of the world to make computers, antibiotics, and tampons. Widsom that you in your lovely hypocrisy use all of the time. Best hurry and live in a mud hut to avoid angering this god.
This god was so ignorant to claim that menstruating women were somehow “unclean” a process that he supposedly made them do. Men used to claim that disease was God’s will and it needed to be placated, but gee, now this god can be safely ignored since it doesn’t exist at all. Your religion is a primitive little thing, nothing special at all, even though you try and try to make it so.