You make assumptions and read your understanding into things and that causes you to make errors in your respresentation of things written by others (Me).
Then I would suggest that you make a consistent argument. As opposed to changing it everytime you get called on something. Or maybe using words properly instead of reinventing them to suit your needs. It would also help if you didn’t use logical fallacies to make your arguments (see one of the points that you ignored above) and if you actually backed anything you said instead of just reasserting it over and over again like a broken record.
Don’t blame me for your shortcomings.
I never said "one can take what someone is naturally and treat it as something else," you imply that I said that's because according to your understanding, convictions, and perhaps even misconceptions that is the case.
I never said that you did, nor did I imply that you did. I said that your view carried some bad implications. As in “a likely consequence of something”.
The post that you quoted was speculation on some of the potential consequences that could be taken from your viewpoint and how others could use it. Not a statement that they were your actual viewpoint. Ironic that you just finished talking about making assumptions.
I did however, mention what I believe the perception of individuals should be. For me, that perception is initially, not exclusively, but initially based on WHAT PEOPLE DO.
This is not what you said initially however. This is what you are trying to say now.
Nowhere did I say that the motivations behind those actions were not important or valid.
Say it, no. It was implied in your early posts however. Especially since you specifically singled out
only ones actions as the means of determining sexual orientation. Up until you were called on it at any rate.
What I did purposely imply, whether right or wrong, was that those motives should NOT necessarily carry more weight than one's actions.
Which you have still failed to justify.
In addition, I do not wish for people to believe that I am saying orientation does not matter. It can matter greatly. What I did say was that when it doesn't factor in on how one acts, then it becomes less relevant.
And to reiterate a previous point that you did not address. Exactly how does it not factor in nearly every expect of a persons life?
This is so stupid I don't even know where to begin.
Do I actually have to explain to you how a persons sexual orientation can affect their life?
Especially in a society where one can be ostracized/bullied/disowned by family just for having an orientation that is considered unacceptable.
Or we could address the fact that many people who are gay have heterosexual relationships as a means to hide the fact from society. Leading to lives filled with depression, self-loathing, and fear of being exposed. Not to mention the stress of dealing with all of those suppressed urges. and similar issues. I would say that it has quite a bit of relevance.
This is just the beginning of how these things can affect people. We could go on, but try addressing at least this one thing first.
Are you ever going to get around to actually addressing anything? Or do I get the continued pleasure of watching you dodge and stonewall some more?
See below.
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Bigger picture for me is a yet to be proven hypothesis that I wish to put forth that finds flaws in the current understanding as it relates to human sexual orientation that lists hetero, homo, bi, and asexual as sexual orientations. The idea I put forth is that overwhelmingly human beings are sexually oriented creatures. With that said, a human's biological sexual orientation can truly only fall into 1 of 2 catagories those being SEXUAL or ASEXUAL. SEXUAL humans simply have an innate drive to engage in sexual activities. There are varieties of sexual activities SEXUALLY ORIENTED humans can engage in with some activities arousing greater erotic desires for individuals than others. We do not know all of the reasons why certain individuals are drawn to certain desires and other individuals are drawn in by different sexual desires.
Ok Truth, I’m going to try this one more time. Maybe this time you’ll actually listen.
Stop dodging. You are not being asked to repeat your shallow and insipid ideas over and over again ad nauseum. Even though you keep changing it every few posts, we know what you are saying. That is not the issue. You are being
called out on what you are saying.
Have you not read a single thing people have been posting in this thread? You have claimed that there is no evidence for sexual orientation being biological. Evidence was shown, but you did not address it. You were asked to provide evidence to support your position, you haven’t. You were called on for redefining terms to suit your needsYou were addressed by Samothec, by Dante, by Lucifer, and DumpsterFire and others. There are about ten posts that you almost totally ignored with a lot of questions and issues raised, including the post of mine previous to the one you just quoted. Most of what you do answer is only a response to one small part of the post, ignoring almost the entirety of what was actually said.
You continually state and restate your position but fail to address the actual substance of the comments and what you are being called out to account for.
Now I am just finishing my eleventh hour at work, and I have twelve due for tomorrow, so forgive me if this sounds a little blunt but……
I have little interest in watching you continue to jerk yourself off in this thread. You’ve stated your position (repeatedly and in many different ways) now please commence in pulling your head from the portion of your ass that it’s securely lodged into and actually address the substance of what’s being said. The issues you have been called out on over the last two pages or do myself and the thread a massive favour and
shut the fuck up. Nobody made you open your mouth and start spewing your opinion, nobody asked for your opinion or your input, you made that decision to get involved. So stop dodging and stonewalling and ignoring the points people raise whenever someone presents evidence against you.
Get a fucking scrotum, Princess.
(Ok, rant over)