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Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« on: January 20, 2012, 11:44:52 AM »
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Psychological research has found that religious people feel great about themselves, with a tendency toward higher social self-esteem and better psychological adjustment than non-believers. But a new study published in Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science, finds that this is only true in countries that put a high value on religion.
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-01-religious-people-adjusted-psychologically.html

To me, this demonstrates how religion is very much a herd thing.  If you are in a religious area and are religious, of course you think you are better and "right". 
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 11:47:38 AM »
It's just narcissism. "Our god created the 300+ billion galaxy universe just for us."
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 11:51:41 AM »
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Psychological research has found that religious people feel great about themselves, with a tendency toward higher social self-esteem and better psychological adjustment than non-believers. But a new study published in Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science, finds that this is only true in countries that put a high value on religion.
http://medicalxpress.com/news/2012-01-religious-people-adjusted-psychologically.html

To me, this demonstrates how religion is very much a herd thing.  If you are in a religious area and are religious, of course you think you are better and "right".

I saw this just the other day myself.  I remember thinking how ridiculously irrelevant it is.  What's the old saying about drunk people being happier than sober ones by comparison?
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 12:00:37 PM »
Could partly be biological as well.

Studies do indicate religious folks are generally less depressed. Research shows that our dopamine levels goes up when we think we are about to get rewarded.

The great reward in the next life...

Another interesting thing:
A person with hypocampal damage, has less ability to link cause to effect. Superstition allows us to make a casual link where one does (or may not) exist.

Makes it easy to get those dopamine levels up, I think.
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 12:03:34 PM »
Ignorance is bliss.
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 12:04:26 PM »
I like to think that it depends on how well defined "better adjusted" is in the studies.

How "Jesus loves you and if you don't accept him you're going to hell" indicates being better adjusted I don't know.

Big groups that smile all the time don't impress me as much as they do those that conducted the studies.

I guess there is something wrong with me.

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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 12:29:06 PM »
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But they suspected that the reason for this was that religious people are better in living up to their societal values in religious societies, which in turn should lead to higher social self-esteem and better psychological adjustment.

Makes sense to a point.  People who fit in are less likely to run into problems in the community and they receive constant validation of their choices.



They're also less likely to be noticed and singled out.
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 11:07:17 AM »
The guys who flew the planes into the World Trade Center defined their society's values, and had excellent self-esteem. They are still considered heroes, publicly or secretly, by the vast majority of the Muslim world.

If the scorn and ire of the ignorant masses is the price I pay for my logic and reason, I pay it gladly. After all, what value hath the respect of a fool?
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2012, 11:13:48 AM »
They are still considered heroes, publicly or secretly, by the vast majority of the Muslim world.

joebbowers, seriously, what's with you and Muslims? Nearly every post I see that you make related to Islam "hints" at how "most Muslims are extremists". Once you even posted something like "Ask them if you don't believe me. Just remember that they're going to lie". Prejudice (especially in the absence of evidence) is not a virtue.
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2012, 11:35:14 AM »
joebbowers, seriously, what's with you and Muslims? Nearly every post I see that you make related to Islam "hints" at how "most Muslims are extremists". Once you even posted something like "Ask them if you don't believe me. Just remember that they're going to lie". Prejudice (especially in the absence of evidence) is not a virtue.
I've wondered that myself.  In fairness, there are serious and real problems with countries where Islam is the law of the land, but that is not the same thing as assuming that Muslims, in general, are problems waiting to happen.

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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2012, 11:40:13 AM »
In fairness, there are serious and real problems with countries where Islam is the law of the land, but that is not the same thing as assuming that Muslims, in general, are problems waiting to happen.

That's true of any theocracy.
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2012, 03:28:42 PM »
The guys who flew the planes into the World Trade Center defined their society's values, and had excellent self-esteem. They are still considered heroes, publicly or secretly, by the vast majority of the Muslim world.

If the scorn and ire of the ignorant masses is the price I pay for my logic and reason, I pay it gladly. After all, what value hath the respect of a fool?

so joebowers defined his society's values and had excellent self-esteem and is still a douchebag.

happily, generalizations often fail. 
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2012, 03:51:31 PM »
The guys who flew the planes into the World Trade Center defined their society's values, and had excellent self-esteem. They are still considered heroes, publicly or secretly, by the vast majority of the Muslim world.

If the scorn and ire of the ignorant masses is the price I pay for my logic and reason, I pay it gladly. After all, what value hath the respect of a fool?

The Muslims I know were appalled and horrified by the actions of those men. They did not admire bin Laden or cheer when the towers fell. They knew that they would be scapegoated and mistreated because of 9/11 (and they were).

I know a man who lost his security clearance and engineering job at Boeing due to anti-Muslim prejudice after 9/11. He and his family did not think those hijackers were heroes.

My wealthy Gulf Arab students left the US after being threatened and harrassed. They are pursuing their educations in England and Canada. They and their terrified families did not think those hijackers were heroes.

So, tell me, how do you know what the vast majority of Muslims secretly think? It's a secret, right?  :?
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Re: Are religious people better adjusted psychologically?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2012, 04:59:58 PM »
Religion is a placebo masquerading as the Great Panecia. Those who "take the pill" and believe the advertisement without considering the "fine print" (that it's not real medicine) will often times convince themselves that all is in fact cured in their lives and that ultimately they have nothing to worry about because to them, their faith is the victory that has overcome the world, it evils, its dangers, and most of its concerns.
Such a state of mental conviction can lead to more inner peace and psychological health and proves a point of mine that states that religion is the ultimate coping mechanism.