I, for one, do not mind having scripture quoted to me. God's word is the only tangible thing that we have to represent Him. And it is His word that proves that He can not be real, or if real, is not worthy of our love. I think that you must, deep down, understand this, and that is why you have avoided His word in this thread.
Or, possibly you are avoiding the word because you are confused as to what being a Christian is all about. You ask your self: Which laws does a True Christian follow? That is understandable.
Anyone that has read the bible knows that is filled with many archaic and cruel laws, such as those that command that homosexuals be put to death ;
You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination. Leviticus 18:22,
If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. 20:13
or the unbeliever
6If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. Deut. 13:6-10 So I'm treading on thin ice here. If you are one that believes in the entire bible and that it is to be followed in its entirety, you need to cast the first stone.
or the witch
You shall not allow a witch to live. Exodus 22:18
or one that rebels against their parents
20 And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.
21 And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear. Deut. 21:20-21
When questioned with the issue of not obeying many of the Old Testament laws, modern Christians will speak of the new covenant and say that Jesus fulfilled the law, often referring to Matthew 5:17.
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
There is disagreement among Christians about the interpretation of this (with supporting scripture for both sides) and as a result many Christians fall on either side of the issue. I can provide plenty of scripture and commentary on this, but you can Google as well as I can. If Jesus abolished the OT Laws, why keep the 10 commandments? If Jesus did not abolish the law, then why not stone the bride who is not a virgin?
Christians are burning their own children as witches in Kenya and stoning adulterers in Somalia and beheading unbelievers in the Middle East. I can provide links to actual videos of this happening right now, if you have the stomach for it.
In America, abortion clinics are bombed, children are beaten or denied medical care by devoted Christians. Why is this? And why do Christians adhere to certain commandments or laws in the bible and not others? Why are not most Christians obedient to the entire word of God and kill the homosexual or stone their disobedient children? The answer lies in their ability to cherry pick scripture and interpret it according to their own preference. The bible is so filled with contradictory statements, this is easy to do.
I tend to agree with those Christians that say the New Testament demands the Laws of the Old Testament be kept. Let’s look at the very words of Jesus himself.
“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19)
"It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid." (Luke 16:17)
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place." (Matthew 5:17)
"All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." (2 Timothy 3:16)
"Know this first of all, that there is no prophecy of scripture that is a matter of personal interpretation, for no prophecy ever came through human will; but rather human beings moved by the holy Spirit spoke under the influence of God." (2 Peter 20-21)
"Whoever curses father or mother shall die" (Mark 7:10)
“He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)
“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law" (John7:19) and “For the law was given by Moses,..." (John 1:17).
“...the scripture cannot be broken.” John 10:35
I agree it is difficult to follow God's laws and rules, as they are obviously not above man's laws. And they are contradictory.Contradictions relating to "the law."
Don’t Judge others: Matthew 7:1-2: “Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged.” Luke 6:37 & 1 Corinthians 5:12.
Judge Others: “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment” (John 7:24). 1 Corinthians 5:12 & 6:2-4.
Do not Covet: Exodus 20:17 says, “Thou shalt not covet . . . anything that is thy neighbor’s,”
Covet: 1 Corinthians 12:31 says, “Covet earnestly the best gifts.”
Do not Lie: Exodus 20:16. Proverbs 12:22 & Revelations 21:8
OK To Lie: Joshua 2:4-6, Exodus 1:18-20 & 1 Kings 22:21-22
DO not Kill: Exodus 20:13 says “thou shalt not kill”.
Kill: God in Exodus 32:27, Numbers 31, and THOUSANDS of others commands to kill..
Owning slaves is OK:
Leviticus 25:45 “Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy … and they shall be your possession… they shall be your bondmen forever.” Genesis 9:25 “And he Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.” Exodus 21:2 & 7 “If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing… And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.” Joel 3:8 “And I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah, and they shall sell them to the Sabeans, to a people far off: for the Lord hath spoken it.” Luke 12:47-48 [Jesus speaking] “And that servant, which knew his lord’s will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes.” Colossians 3:22 “Servants, obey in all things your masters.”
Slavery is not OK:
Isaiah 58:6 “Undo the heavy burdens... let the oppressed go free, ... break every yoke.” Matthew 23:10 “Neither be ye called Masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.” Exodus 22:21 & 21:16
Improvidence is Kewl:
Luke 12:3 “Sell that ye have and give alms.” also in Luke 6:30 & 35 “Give to every man that asketh of thee, and of him that taketh away thy goods, ask them not again ... And lend, hoping for nothing again, and your reward shall be great.” Matthew 6:28, 31 & 34.
I Timothy 5:8 “But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. “ Proverbs 13:22.
Show Good works :
Matthew 5:16 “Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works.”
Matthew 6:1 , “Take heed that you do not your alms before men, to be seen of them.”
Wearing long hair, not wearing long hair, circumcising or not circumcising, foods we both can and can not eat, taking oaths or not taking oaths, getting married or not getting married, drinking alcohol or not drinking alcohol, keeping the Sabbath or not keeping the Sabbath, making graven images or not making graven images…..the bible is so full of contradicting statements, if you are a good enough cherry-picker, it is easy to believe just about anything and make a case for it.
So you can continue to make excuses for biblegod and create a Christianity that you can follow. Or, you can do the more obvious thing. Abandon the "faith." That is a far more sensible thing to do. You came here for a reason. You said it is NOT to convert anyone to your belief (even though we all know that evangelism is called for by the bible-- Go forth and PREACH THE GOSPEL IS NOT A SUGGESTION).
TIME TO BE HONEST WITH YOUR SELF IF NOT WITH US. Maybe you coming here was a silent plea from your subconscious mind (which can sort these contradictions more clearly) drawing you here to help you de-convert yourself? If so, you have come to the right place.
ADDED: Oh yeah... I got some of this from the Evil Biblehttp://www.evilbible.com/do_not_ignore_ot.htm