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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #174 on: December 26, 2011, 06:06:14 PM »
One could have the most polite, eloquent discussion about religion, where that person buys her coffee and dinner, and when she hears something she doesn't like she'll get all hostile, like she has here. She doesn't want to be questioned, but wants to questions us. She tells us we have small minds when she's proven to be very small - and closed-minded herself. She's got no intention on even trying to have a conversation with anyone. Such a shame. A 67 year old troll. Pathetic.
I don't know how old you are, but her being 67 , she was raised in a completely different way than today. I am not trying to make excuses for her. But some people are afraid of change. and closed minded. &)
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #175 on: December 26, 2011, 06:06:28 PM »
Oooh, I see Joe is sending someone a message. Who's going to be the lucky recipient?

I hope it's me. ;D
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #176 on: December 26, 2011, 06:07:13 PM »
Oooh, I see Joe is sending someone a message. Who's going to be the lucky recipient?

And is it going to be a message of peace and love?

It is probably to me, since she sent me one earlier, and I just replied. And the message I replied too wasn't that of peace and love.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #177 on: December 26, 2011, 06:08:14 PM »
Oooh, I see Joe is sending someone a message. Who's going to be the lucky recipient?

And is it going to be a message of peace and love?
how can you see someone is sending someone a message?????
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #178 on: December 26, 2011, 06:08:27 PM »
I don't know how old you are, but her being 67 , she was raised in a completely different way than today. I am not trying to make excuses for her. But some people are afraid of change. and closed minded. &)

If she was raised to hate black people, and went into an African-American-themed forum, and began disparaging the black membership for bein black...would she deserve gentle treatment, on account of her upbringing?
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #179 on: December 26, 2011, 06:09:16 PM »
how can you see someone is sending someone a message?????

Just view who's online at the bottom of the homepage.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #180 on: December 26, 2011, 06:11:05 PM »
I don't know how old you are, but her being 67 , she was raised in a completely different way than today. I am not trying to make excuses for her. But some people are afraid of change. and closed minded. &)

It doesn't matter. Shes acting childish. She can be afraid of change all she wants to. The way she is carrying herself on this forum makes her look like a little cry baby.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #181 on: December 26, 2011, 06:11:43 PM »
I don't know how old you are, but her being 67 , she was raised in a completely different way than today. I am not trying to make excuses for her. But some people are afraid of change. and closed minded. &)

If she was raised to hate black people, and went into an African-American-themed forum, and began disparaging the black membership for bein black...would she deserve gentle treatment, on account of her upbringing?
yea , you are right, I guess I am just an old softy.  :?
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #182 on: December 26, 2011, 06:13:53 PM »
Oooh, I see Joe is sending someone a message. Who's going to be the lucky recipient?

And is it going to be a message of peace and love?

It is probably to me, since she sent me one earlier, and I just replied. And the message I replied too wasn't that of peace and love.

Jealousy level is over 9000! DX
I wanted a message from the loving theist for once. I've never received one in my whole life. :'(
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #183 on: December 26, 2011, 06:15:02 PM »
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how can you see someone is sending someone a message?????
I have powers, Riley, secret powers, the like of which mere mortals such as you can only dream...

Oh, damn, Emily spoilt it... yeah, just click on the link. It shows what each person currently on-line is doing. For example, against my name right now it says, Picking his nose and wondering whether to have another beer or switch to wine. Damn clever - I don't know how it does it.



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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #184 on: December 26, 2011, 06:15:14 PM »
I was demonstrating a point:

If I claim you are a pedophile, then it falls to me to demonstrate that you are.  I am responsible for the claim.  Until I do so, it's more reasonable to assume you are not one.

Similarly, if you claim there is a god, then it falls to you to demonstrate that there is one.  You are responsible for that claim.  Until you do so, it's more reasonable to assume that there is not one.

Now that I've connected the dots and coloured in the pictures, do you understand the concept I was presenting?

EDIT:  Someone who's 67 years old has no excuse for this kind of infantile behaviour.

My infantile behaviour-----You arrogant son of a bitch.  Get a life and get a God you pitiful excuse for a human being.

Azdgari did go a bit far. I would have felt better about Azdgari's pedophile post if he had then added the portion quoted above rather than putting it in a later post.

However, your own behavior on your first day, in your first post and in your first sentence was a bit much also: "I came on this chat to say one thing-I think all of you who do not believe in God are sick individuals and I feel so sorry for you."

In spite of that, I endeavored to have a reasonable conversation with you but you chose to stop. You do make it difficult to talk with you.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #185 on: December 26, 2011, 06:16:34 PM »
Man, I pray that Ray is typing up one if his whiskey soaked rantings right now!
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #186 on: December 26, 2011, 06:19:05 PM »
posted in error. But that is the way I roll. :laugh:
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #187 on: December 26, 2011, 06:25:05 PM »
Azdgari did go a bit far. I would have felt better about Azdgari's pedophile post if he had then added the portion quoted above rather than putting it in a later post.

Was there something non-obvious about how I'd meant what I'd initially said?  What part would you have changed?  If I'd connected all the dots ahead of time, then:

1. I would have been treating JB like she was an infant.
2. She probably wouldn't have responded any differently, given the posting history we're looking at.

EDIT:  Riley, I think you messed up the last post up there ^^
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #188 on: December 26, 2011, 06:26:25 PM »
PS Madbunny, I liked your teapot image, but two spelling mistakes in twelve words rather spoiled my enjoyment of it. Particularly when one of them was Russell's name. Yeah, yeah, I need to lighten up, I know...

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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #189 on: December 26, 2011, 06:28:28 PM »
I will find out if what I believe is true once I take my last breath.

Actually, I think the following scenario is vastly more likely:
  • At the moment of death, all the organs in your body -- Including your brain -- will cease to function.
  • Without a functioning brain to serve as a vehicle for your mind, you will completely lose your sense of awareness, including the knowledge of who you were and what you believed.  You won't even know you're dead.
  • Your body will be buried, cremated or otherwise disposed of, and in good time the most recent group of molecules that comprised your physical body will return to the ecosystem.  Some will probably become part of the physical structure of other living beings.
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You, on the other hand are secretly uneasy with the concept that there MAY, in fact, be a God, and you MAY, in fact, have to answer to him once you die.

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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #190 on: December 26, 2011, 06:31:04 PM »
Azdgari did go a bit far. I would have felt better about Azdgari's pedophile post if he had then added the portion quoted above rather than putting it in a later post.

Was there something non-obvious about how I'd meant what I'd initially said?  What part would you have changed?  If I'd connected all the dots ahead of time, then:

1. I would have been treating JB like she was an infant.
2. She probably wouldn't have responded any differently, given the posting history we're looking at.

EDIT:  Riley, I think you messed up the last post up there ^^
yep I did, sorry ,  :'(
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #191 on: December 26, 2011, 06:36:23 PM »
OMG-You all deserve one another!  You all live in your own little world and I wish to hell it was your own little planet!
You are a sick, sick bunch and may God have mercy on your souls.  I hope I am close by on judgement day when you step up and he kicks your asses all the way to hell...that laughter you hear will be mine and that voice yelling "I TOLD YOU SO!" will be mine too.  Have a Hellish Life ya'll.

Again, I ask:

1) It is the day after christmas.  "Peace on Earth, and goodwill towards men".  Why do you fail to extend that goodwill?

2) Jesus said "Judge NOT, lest ye be judged".  Why do you disobey your lord and savior?

I thought Jesus was suppose to be about peace[1] and love.  Where's the love?  I'm not feeling it...  :angel:
 1. lets ignore that bit about a sword, shall we?
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #192 on: December 26, 2011, 06:40:25 PM »
PS Madbunny, I liked your teapot image, but two spelling mistakes in twelve words rather spoiled my enjoyment of it. Particularly when one of them was Russell's name. Yeah, yeah, I need to lighten up, I know...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k150/madbunny_2006/black-tea-pot-2.jpg

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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #193 on: December 26, 2011, 07:03:46 PM »
snipped for focus
Was there something non-obvious about how I'd meant what I'd initially said?  What part would you have changed?  If I'd connected all the dots ahead of time, then:

1. I would have been treating JB like she was an infant.
2. She probably wouldn't have responded any differently, given the posting history we're looking at.

While I know the argument, it didn't occur to me with the first post - which is why I was uncomfortable with it. I try to be direct (except when being playful) so I would have spelled it out - and possibly been accused of treating the person as an infant (or being condescending - as has happened). Both 1 & 2 are very valid points.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #194 on: December 26, 2011, 07:41:28 PM »
you selfish bastards

I come on here and find that the perfect  kook cookie had presented itself as a xmas sweet, and there is not a crumb left.

Haven't you greedy[1] heard of rationality rationing. 

We are on this life raft together, adrift on a seethe of theist, and it is very uncivilised to finish off the meagre fare while some of us are sleeping.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #195 on: December 26, 2011, 08:00:44 PM »
OMG-You all deserve one another!  You all live in your own little world and I wish to hell it was your own little planet!
You are a sick, sick bunch and may God have mercy on your souls.  I hope I am close by on judgement day when you step up and he kicks your asses all the way to hell...that laughter you hear will be mine and that voice yelling "I TOLD YOU SO!" will be mine too.  Have a Hellish Life ya'll.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #196 on: December 26, 2011, 08:43:22 PM »
Joe Blow,
While offline I pondered the personal information the medium supposedly divined. I'm guessing that you have a land-line phone or cell phone with a calling plan. That means your number will come up on caller ID. Your area code gives them at least the state you called from and the whole number gives the medium your name, your husband's name, and your address. From that information a simple web search can provide a wealth of other personal information unless you have made a determined effort to not give out information including avoiding contests, verifying with every company that they don't sell/share your info, and other efforts some might consider paranoid.

The only way for you to verify to yourself that the medium didn't Google you and then feed your info back to you to deceive you is for you to Google yourself and do your best to find out what is available about you and your husband online. Be aware, there are information companies that scour the web to gather data then sell access to it. The medium could subscribe to such a service so a cursory online search for your own info might not be thorough enough. For you to be sure the medium is genuine you really need to make a diligent effort when Googling yourself.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #197 on: December 26, 2011, 08:44:19 PM »
PS Madbunny, I liked your teapot image, but two spelling mistakes in twelve words rather spoiled my enjoyment of it. Particularly when one of them was Russell's name. Yeah, yeah, I need to lighten up, I know...

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k150/madbunny_2006/black-tea-pot-2.jpg

Fixed it for you.
Aw, sweet, you've made an old grammar Nazi very happy.

Oh wait, was that your spelling I was whining about? If I'd known that, MadB, I'd have been more vicious kept quiet.

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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #198 on: December 26, 2011, 08:53:06 PM »
I was demonstrating a point:

Speaking on a logical plane, you are correct; i.e., you providing a logically valid counter example to his argument.  :)

However, he doesn't seem very bright and you seen to have turned the discussion into a personal attack fest.

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If I claim you are a pedophile, then it falls to me to demonstrate that you are.  I am responsible for the claim.  Until I do so, it's more reasonable to assume you are not one.

I will however applaud you for at least explaining to the (not particularly bright) user why you made said comment.

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Now that I've connected the dots and coloured in the pictures, do you understand the concept I was presenting?

The song "bang your head" is playing in my mind at the moment.

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EDIT:  Someone who's 67 years old has no excuse for this kind of infantile behaviour.

Meh, people are what they are. Calling somebody a pedophile is still an asshole move.

His response with the standard beat your wife thing was equally assholy but you seem to have started it.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #199 on: December 26, 2011, 08:54:55 PM »
Ricky, can you please show me where I called her a pedophile?

EDIT:  And it was a personal-attack-fest long before I posted.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #200 on: December 26, 2011, 08:58:00 PM »
Joe Blow - do you have any irrefutable evidence that there is a god?
Do you have any that there is not?

Do you have any evidence that you are not a pedophile?



Is it as reasonable to call you one, as it is not to call you one, given the lack of evidence in either direction?

Is it true you no longer abuse your wife?


Hmmm ... Fine, strictly speaking you didn't tell him he was pedo bear. Still an asshole example to choose.

Sorry, I got to call China now.

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"i had learn to focus i what i could do rather what i couldn't do", Rick Hansen when asked about getting a disabling spinal cord injury at 15. He continues to raise money for spinal cord research and inspire peoople to "make a difference". He doesnt preach any religion.

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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #201 on: December 26, 2011, 09:00:46 PM »
Since I was not saying or implying that Joe Blow was a pedophile (in fact, my entire point rested on the idea and reasonable assumption that she was not one), I can't see the assholishness.  -1 for either not reading my post, or lying about it.

EDIT:  No, no, Ricky.  You meant it the first time.  Don't applaud me.  And I won't applaud you.
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Re: Irrefutable proof that a god exists
« Reply #202 on: December 26, 2011, 09:03:19 PM »
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you selfish bastards
She was indeed a christmas cracker. And about as funny.

I loved how her second post was to demand to know our ages. You could see how that was going to go... I'm older than you, so nyah, nyah... Is there a formal name for that fallacy?
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