Where do I start?
There is tangible benefits hanging out with others of like precious faith.
Yes, I said so in my post. Humans are social animals, we gain a lot from membership in a community.
Jesus sent His disciples out in two's.
I'm not sure where you're going with this. Would anything have been different if he'd sent them out in threes?
Jesus was the only one who hung on the cross by Himself when no-one was there to believe.
Wrong. According to the story, one of the robbers crucified with him came to believe in him. In John's Gospel, his mother Mary and "the Beloved Disciple" were there, since Jesus was able to tell the Disciple to take care of his mother.
The Bible says you will know them by their fruit. Unfortunately, you only get the media version, not what happens day to day in the towns where believers live.
There are good and bad Christians, just like there are good and bad Hindus, Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists, etc., etc.. However, it is interesting to note that statistics for societal health (crime rates, public health, teen pregnancy, etc.) tend to be better in non-religious societies (e.g. Sweden, Japan) than in the much more religious United States.
You have no clue what reality is to a Christian. Good reason why the Bible says do not cast your pearls before the swine.
Yes I do. I was one. I anticipate now that you will engage the No True Scotsman Fallacy, and claim that I was not a real Christian.
You don't think Christians know what reality is?
When it comes to anticipating how reality will behave, you anticipate
that it does not include a deity who can or will suspend the generalized operating principles of physics in your favor. You anticipate
that Yahweh will do nothing. So, on that level at least, yes, Christians know what reality is. You live in the same godless Universe we do.
What is reality kcrady? Please inform my knuckle dragging ignorant brain what REALITY is. You don't think Christians experience the same things you do?
Yes, I do
think Christians experience the same things I do. That is exactly my point. You live in the same godless Universe we do.
The Bible does provide a moral code. Whats yours?
to each other!" *Air guitar*
The preamble to the constitution refers to a creator.
You're not talking about the preamble to the U.S. Constitution, are you? Here it is:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Could you please point me to any mention of a creator there?
Now look at what it does
say. Notice the complete absence of any indication that the system of government about to be spelled out comes from the Bible, creeds or traditions of any church, or any other sort of divine revelation or authority. Instead, it is formed by We The People, acting independently of any gods. You live under the same godless Constitution we do.
There was a lot of Christian influence early on in this nation although I know you were taught it was for the worst. I disagree....we can argue that on another thread.
There was also a lot of pagan influence. Just look at the architecture of Washington D.C.. None of the major government buildings and monuments are modeled after ancient Jewish architecture or medieval European cathedrals. It's all Greco-Roman, and that's before you start looking at all the esoteric Masonic symbolism. The structure of our Republic's government is based on pagan societies like the Iroquois Confederacy, the Roman Republic, and Athenian democracy. You will find nothing like it in Exodus, Leviticus, or Deuteronomy, where Yahweh's preferred system of government is outlined. The Ten Commandments and the Ten Amendments (Bill of Rights) are diametrically opposite to one another.
The benefits of belief are real and now in this life.
Exactly as I explained in my post. And those benefits have nothing to do with the belief being accurate. They're benefits you get from professing
kcrady, you don't have a clue what reality is....but you will, you will. Read under the line.
*Sigh* There just aren't enough facepalms. You guys always
have to go to the well for Pascal's Wager, don't you? Again, this is exactly as I explained in my post: you have to place any anticipated consequences for your beliefs in inaccessible places, like after death. Your implied threat that I'll be punished after death for not sharing your professed beliefs are no more frightening to me than the threats of Islamic, or ancient Egyptian, or Norse "hell" are to you, and for the same reason: the threats aren't credible.