Is each Bible identical to one another? No. This only gives more reason for one to cross check scripture with scripture to see if there are any contradictions. "Thou shalt commit adultery" in one, and "thou shalt not commit adultery" in another would be an obvious one.
funny how your god allows this to happen. Why no simple direct understandable bible and not having people kill each other over differing opinions on what god “really” meant?
velkyn, you ask for evidence of my claims, then try to tell me I have a sect even though I make no mention of having one.
A sect is simply what you think your god really meant. The Catholics think one thing, the various Protestant sects, another, the orthodox another, and all of the various churches that try to avoid the problem of “religion” by declaring that they are only into a “relationship”. All sure that they are the only TrueChristianstm and all with no more evidence that they are than the next sect.
Yes I'm fine with him using a sword.
Ah, I’m sure you are. Many Christians are quite happy with their fantasies that their god will harm those who dare disagree with the believer. What I find amusing that this god of yours doesn’t use a sword at all, and indeed ignores the supposedly evil acts of its believers. Again, a god that doesn’t exist fulfils this quite well.
I do enjoy how you ignore my questions. I’ll post them again. “Actions speak louder than myths. We see no evidence of this god even existing much less being what you claim. Tell me, how is it “just” to punish someone for another’s crimes? Your god can’t even keep its own commandments. Oh and those commandments, if the OT is null and void, why are so many Christians so demanding that those now pointless commandments be put up in public buildings in the US. Don’t they agree with your version of Chrisitanity?”
Yes, Parables are used, and in some cases, spelled out word for word so you don't even have to rely on me to explain it to you!
Which is hysterical since your supposed savior used parable to intentionally make sure that some people will never understand and be saved. I do enjoy when Christians try to make believe certain parts of their bible dont’ exist. Unfortunate for you that anyone can read the bible and know better.
I'll help you again with the whole bird/devil thing and parables. Luke 8:5-12.
Amazing how powerful Satan is! Golly, so much for an omnipotent god and for the choice of people to believe or not. Your god can’t sow “seed” at all, can he? Again, we see more evidence that your god is not just or even smart, but that per your magic book, no one has any chance of accepting god other than those your god intends. Not fair or just at all.
Let’s look at the parable of the mustard seed and see how birds are used in that one:
31 He told them another parable: “The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. 32 Though it is the smallest of all seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds come and perch in its branches.”
So, Rory, does Satan perch in the kingdom of heaven and take refuge there as these birds do? Or is it that the birds are believers who come to reside in the kingdom of heaven?
I have a quick list from some time ago on how to tell if you have been saved--not how to become saved, I do not claim this list to be complete:
2 Cor 5:17--look for a change
What kind of “change” Rory? How do you see that it’s a real one and not an act?
1 John 3:14--You love other Christians,
Oh yes, how Catholics and Protestants love each other?
23-24--You believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, you keep the commandments
Really, all of the commandments? So you kill those who work on the Sabbath? You see, Rory, your supposed savior never says any of the commandments are to be ignored, and they sure don’t stop at ten. I’m sure you’ll try to claim some sort of excuse. Go ahead, I’ve seen them all and shown how they are wrong.
1 John 5:13-15--He answers prayers that are aligned with his will
These verses: “13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.”
JC himself said that a believer may ask *anything* and it will be fulfilled quickly and positively. No “aligned by his will”. That was a rather nice rewrite by people who were starting to realize that the promises of JC were failing and that they needed to do a bit of an adjustment on expectations. I wonder, how does one know if one is asking according to his will? OR is it the circular argument that only those prayers that get fulfilled by coincidence are the only ones that count and that “obviously” anything else is not God’s will. I guess then that God’s will is that children starve, etc.
1 John 4:13--He gives you the Holy Spirit
again, how can we tell? I see Christians of all types claim that they have this holy spirit. Who “really” has it?
1 Cor 2:10-16--You understand scripture
Love this one best. Because it means for every Christian “You understand the scripture just as I do or I won’t consider you a TrueChristiantm”.
Birds are Satan? In the context of that parable, yes. Luke 8, might be a little easier for you to see that than Matthew 13. No reinterpretation needed, no outside influences telling you or me what was really meant.
However, birds are not in the context of the mustard seed one, not at all. unless, again, you can show how Satan lives in the kingdom of heaven. Please do.
Your yeast parable vs the yeast of the Pharisee is an argument taking verses both out of context and misunderstanding the whole point. You could say that bread is good but don't eat this kind. There is no contradiction. And I don't think anyone really feels the point of that verse was so that people don't physically eat the bread of the Pharisees. It is a symbolic analysis of doctrine.
I love claims of how I took things out of context and misunderstood things and then no demonstration of that. Yep, you *could* say that bread good but don’t eat this kind. However, in the yeast parable, it doesn’t even say that, it says that it isn’t even good. And I dont’ care about baseless comments that you don’t thinks that “anyone” does whatever. I didn’t say anything about the bread being literal.
or that anyone was eating it.
I have not made excuses nor tried to abandon a "responsibilities." Your assumptions of my future actions and personal beliefs are what indicate that you both take this personally and have been previously offended. So having seen my own mistakes in the past and the mistakes of other people claiming to be Christians, I can understand your position.
Again with the magic psychic Christian claims. No, I’m not offended, I’m simply amused and pointing out just how hypocritical you are. I suppose I shouldn’t’ seeing it’s like shooting fish in a barrel. But again, do you have insurance? A bank account? or do you follow the words of your supposed savior?
I do not believe that God will "mind control" you.
Yes I pray, always. "Pray without ceasing" 1 Thess 5:17
I believe my prayers will be answered if they are in accordance with his will.
again, nice ignoring of your own bible. Again, what do you expect to happen when you pray? What did you pray for, Rory?
I'm sure you've had people pray for you in the past, so if those individuals were saved, and they prayed in accordance with God's will, it's only a matter of time now
. If you actually believe this, then why does prayer fail every single time? Why does nothing actually happen when asked like the moutntain moving when commanded? The bible doesn’t say that it moves 3 decades later. But as it seems, you also don’t believe that prayer works and that it can do anything.
And add one more person to that list of people praying, although I laughed when I started praying for "velkyn" the other day.
again, what do you pray for?
I have to go, God willing I will reply to those remaining quickly, sorry I could not respond to everything tonight.
And gee, god willing. So you have your excuse at the ready if you bail. it’s not you, it’s “really” god that controls you. As for any claims of “love”, I do wonder if you know what that means. Your bible is quite interesting on that, especially on how your own god fails at its supposedly divinely inspired definition of it.
You seem quite intent on picking and choosing what you’ll respond to. Questionsn are asked of you for a reason, Rory. This is a discussion forum, not a soap box for you to remain unchallenged.