Well, I can see why you'd want to pretend that there was a certain type of Christian who could lose their faith; to insulate yourself from the possibility that it could happen to you.
It did happen to me , though...for more than a decade.I was a backslider after having this experience:
3Jesus answered him, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, that unless a person is born again (anew, from above), he cannot ever see (know, be acquainted with, and experience) the kingdom of God.
5Jesus answered, I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, unless a man is born of water and [[a]even] the Spirit, he cannot [ever] enter the kingdom of God.(A)
6What is born of [from] the flesh is flesh [of the physical is physical]; and what is born of the Spirit is spirit.
But become an atheist? Not possible.You have to let go of one or the other.
You are formulating a "No True Scottsman" logic. There surely must have been something defective about them.
I don't know that much about them actually.
Do You believe every person who claims to be a Christian is one just by virtue of them saying it?I know of people who claimed to be- just so they could pick up girls at 'youth group'.They in no way, shape, or form thought of themselves as Christians.Do you believe there is no way, scripturally , to see if a persons claims to be Christian can be authenticated?At least give us an idea?The" fruit inspector" test, maybe?
Try Dan Barker's story, and tell me why he was not a real Christian. I'm sure you can discover it.
." My childhood was filled with love, fun and purpose. I felt truly fortunate to have been born into the "truth"
and at the age of fifteen I committed myself to a lifetime of Christian ministry
I don't see anything on his own conversion ." Born into the "truth""doesn't explain much.It sounds like a reference to family circumstance the way he puts it here.Committing to a lifetime of christian ministry just doesn't mean as much after reading about 'the atheist clergy'.
I can see that you think that some people have the spirit and can never lose it.
In all actuality I don't believe that at all.
Rather than looking for psychological out-clauses in de-converted Christians, it would be more logical to accept that any Christian can become an atheist.
I don't see the logic, I guess.I don't believe Christians can become atheists.Not based on the verses in John anyway.Backslidden?....absolutely!!We have a couple of those kickin' around in here.
That you are a candidate. Mother Teresa pretty much lost it, but kept doing the motions.
I can backslide- of course.Renounce my faith...sure.Deny that I had an encounter with God....just can't happen.I even tried, but, no dice.
I don't know much about Mother Theresa.
Say, if God is equally available, then why did he write a Genesis in a way that would be interpreted as being incorrect from 1890 onwards?
I don't believe that it is by all the experts in the various disciplines.
Don't you think he should have given people in this era a fighting chance, by creating the galaxy in day one, and our star on day 3, and Earth on day 6, and then making animals evolve by intelligent design?
Could you expand on this a bit? Verses could help.
The Quran has made this mistake as well, offering proof that birds fly is evidence of Allah. Now people know that Allah is not holding up birds, they must be at a disadvantage.
I don't get into the Quaran much...not since I learned their whole " God had no Son" schtick.
I think it might be normal in Catholicism and Anglican denominations to have severely "liberal" approaches. If they lose it completely, then yes, most of them would get out.
Actually The Methodists were mentioned and I know The Episcopal church seems to be as well.I don't know much about them at all....except for the ordained openly gay Bishop .He comes to one of the churches in the town I live in.