Alzael; I am sorry if it come off and me saying; "of course you would say that, you're an atheist." That is not what I intend to say and not what I think
Actually it is. You said exactly that several times. For example:
"If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away."
You have just stated that all of the arguments made against gods existence are made not because there is a legitimate argument or point, but because the person making them is an atheist. The majority of your entire post said this. It was simply a blanket dismissal of every rational argument against gods existence because you claim the person making them does not want to believe, and will say anything to prove it to themselves.
So yes, it is very clearly what you intended to say. Because it is exactly what you said several times. You're, quite frankly, lying.
Just as you lie whenever you say that you have any interest in the truth, as can be seen here:
"just as no one can make me not believe by argument." This statement alone renders any claims you make about wanting to learn the truth (or even caring about the truth) an utter lie, because you just admitted that there is no argument you would accept as convincing because you want to believe. The offence comes from the fact that you have assumed that everyone else shares your dishonesty and is equally uncaring about the truth. Willing to rationalize away or explain away any evidence that doesn't fit in what they want to believe.
I truly don't understand why you don't believe in a God that I do Believe in.
Then clearly you haven't actually bothered to pay attention to anything anyone has said. Because peoplehave explained it in great detail over and over again. At the very least you should have picked up the number one reason. There is absolutely no evidence that one exists.
I can tell you why I believe, but I have no evidence for it and that is what you say you need.
So it seems that you do understand why at least in part. You just listed that exact reason #1 right here. You have no evidence. This also casts a light on your statements in the previous post, where you make your ad hominem claim that people who don't want to believe in god will ignore any evidence that says otherwise. You have just admitted that there is no evidence that says otherwise. So again, your previous post was just an ad hominem dismissal, as well as being entirely dishonest.
As I said, I didn't expect you to become an atheist, but I thought that at least you would have grasped some degree of intellectual honesty by now.
Again I did not mean to offend anyone.
Considering that we've established a rather noticeable pattern of dishonesty, I find this less than convincing.
I've already mentioned the obvious dishonesty, but the really offensive thing is the wasting of everyone's time and effort. You spent weeks asking questions and everyone went out of their way to answer them, only to get all of that effort greeted with a post that shows no consideration for anything that anyone has said up to this point. A post that instead dismisses everything anyone has said as atheists saying what they want to believe to make them happy. Saying the exact opposite of what has been explained to you painstakingly over all of this time so that you would at the very least understand. All you were asked to do is be honest and question honestly and you not only failed to do that, you admit to having no intention of doing it from the start. It's a spit in the metaphorical face to every person who took the time to help you answer the questions you asked.
Let's be honest here. You've lied on numerous occasions. You've misreprented yourself. Clearly ignored what people have been telling you all this time. And dismissed all of the logic and evidence presented (at your own request
) with a fallacious post that tries to paint atheists as being just as irrational and dishonest as Christian. And you actually wonder why Jeff was pissed? You actually are wondering why people are offended? Do you really think that's in the least bit convincing?
You may not be wrong in your belief but to brush off my belief with no thought at all does not really show much of an open mind
Firstly, show where anyone has brushed off your beliefs with no thought at all? We've thought about it a lot. We have thousands of threads spent thinking about it and analyzing it, Remember? How has anyone done this. Please list some examples if you're going to make the claim.
As for an open mind, an open mind does not mean that you consider every stupid notion that someone comes up with. That would be....well stupid. An open mind means that you evaluate the evidence and the arguments fairly. The problem is that ,as we all well know, you have no evidence and your arguments rely on fallacy. So how can one consider something with an open mind when you can produce nothing for one to consider.
owever , for you to talk to me with your " I know everything and you know nothing appeal" show no intelligence no morals and no honor. Like I said, Jeff, you sir, have let me down.
You're misrepresenting what he said. Which is not surprising, all things considered.
I find it a little uneasy to think that just because I believe in God that you would find me not worst your time. That some how just feels wrong. Just saying
Again, a lie and a misrepresentation. He did not say that you were not worth the time because you believe in god. He said you wasted our time for the same reasons that I did. They had nothing to do with your being a Christian. They had to do with you.
I am truly sorry that you have the opinion of me that you do, because I have
a growing respect for most of the people that I have talked to on this cite.
I think it's fairly safe to say that you've lost any respect that you had. All you were asked to do was be honest, and you couldn't even manage that.