indoctrination" maybe , or maybe it is just faith.
Do you find that believing in something without a good reason to do so is an effective way to distinguish fact from fiction?
As for what evidence that God doesn't exist looks like,I am not sure, being that I am not trying to falsify the exists of God. What do you think it would look like?
I'm so glad you asked!
Alright, for starters, I would think that the bible would have at least one instance of error. Given that there are so many, I believe that is evidence against the truth of the bible (and therefore the truth of God). I would think that prayer would have no statistical benefit to the outcome of any situation (which is the case). If God were not real, I would expect the world to behave in much the way it would without requiring the explanation of a supernatural entity (which it does). If God were not real, I would expect that we would not be able to hear, see, taste, smell, or touch God in any meaningful way (which we obviously can't). I would also think that any test that is attempted to prove that God is real would be met with failure (which is exactly what happens). I would expect that good and bad things would befall man as a direct result of choices and circumstances (which is exactly what happens). I could do this all day man. All day.
To preach skepticism to us as a duty until sufficient evidence for religion to be found , is tantamount therefore to telling us, when in the presence of the religious hypothesis, that to yield to our fear of its being an error is wiser and better than to yield to our hope that it may be true.
I'm not afraid of being wrong. I just like and prefer the truth. You can hope all you want, but in the end, what you hope for has no bearing on what is true or what is false.
Although our intellect and ability to think logically are powerful tools for understanding the world, they are not sufficient: We also need to make full use of the abilities of our passionate natures when attempting to make sense of and discover truth in areas like morality, religion, and human relationships.(William James,1902).
I thought that might be a quote. It didn't sound like you
I'm all for using emotion (passionate nature) when it comes to morality and human relationships. But as a truth telling device, it's horribly bad. The evidence for this is the sheer number of religions that have been invented by man throughout history. You can't get to the truth by going with your gut. In fact, when it comes to discovering the truth, you need to leave your gut at home, because it's not reliable.
I guess what I am saying here is it makes a difference to me. I feel Him, I feel different about life with him.
You've probably been led to believe this by people close to you for a long time, and to admit that these 'feelings' you have are nothing more than conjurations of your mind would be pretty embarrassing for you. The secrets out, though. All of that is in your head. You don't feel God. It's just you dude.
I know he is there the same way I know my wife and kids love me.
Really? The SAME way? Hold that thought...
I can,t prove that my wife loves me , I just know it.
Aside from the fact that she says it, you mean? Or the fact that she married you? Or the fact that every night she comes home to you? Those are pieces of evidence
that let you know she loves you. If she didn't do any of that, and treated you like a total stranger, do you really think you'd still 'know' she loved you?
But you are saying you 'just know it' as if none of those pieces of evidence are present and you are relying solely on this gut feeling inside you that she loves you. No dude. Evidence is evidence. If she didn't give you evidence that she loved you anymore, your 'gut feeling' would change pretty fast. But if you really want to push this thought, then please tell me what things are consistent between the methodology that God uses to express his love versus the way your wife expresses her love for you on a daily basis. Does God show up all the time? Does God talk to you? Does he tell you he loves you? Does he really do it the SAME WAY as your wife and kids? hardly....
Do you understand that feeling? Being that you don't believe in God anyway, what differences would it make to you.
I'm not sure what you are going for here. Is that a shot at me? Are you trying to say that just because I don't believe in God, I don't have any feelings? Careful riley. I haven't gotten snippy with you yet, but I'm not averse to going there. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
Feelings are great, but they are not good at telling the truth. I know my wife loves me because she provides me evidence that she does. If she didn't give me that evidence, eventually I would start to doubt the idea that she loves me. Do you understand that? You can say "I feel it in my bones" that she loves you, but that's just hokey crap. You know she loves you because she gives you evidence that she does.
Let me ask you a question, In scientific terms... what piece of evidence or what fact would lead you to believe that God exists?
A verified, documented, rigorously scrutinized instance of an amputee regaining their limb intact with the words "The Christian God was here" on it. That would be a real good start. An error free bible, statistical significance to prayer, an instance where I could touch, hear, taste, smell and see God. There's plenty of stuff that would work for me. The fact is, however, if God were real, He would know exactly what I needed to have in order to believe in Him. The fact that I don't have it, speaks volumes. You believe
you have it, but so do billions of other people who believe in very different religions than you. What does that make you? Either you're right and all those other billions of people are wrong (and seriously deluded into thinking their not), or ALL of you are wrong and the whole thing is in your head.