No Man knows what heaven is like...but through the readings of the bible we can reveal that it is a wonderful place with pearly gates and streets paved with gold where there is no pain no weeping no getting tired...just eternal happiness...and it kind of makes you wonder why after hearing about this wonderful kingdom why atheist or anyone who rejects Christianity would say no to even a slight chance of this great place. especially when people like me strongly guarantee that it is real
The folly of youth
Look DJ, how old are you 18 ? ..if so, then you've got a lot of living and learning to do yet in your life.
You mentioned the bible, Have you read it ? Completely ? Have you studied it at all in any depth ?
Have you read any works from theologian scholars who have revealed what the bible actually is ?
Are you aware that the bible is considered by many of them to be a Hebrew work of historical fiction
that is chock full of discrepancies, contradictions, false information and forgeries ? Are you aware of that fact dj
But you know what ? You don't need the experience and authority of scholars to convince you of religions and the bibles problems. If you will read that book with an open and clear mind and with a healthy degree of skepticism, you'll see why we're in the positions that we're in. Look, we understand that the bible is all that you've got and have no other recourse to provide hard tangible evidence to back up your claims, but the book you love and adore is based on primitive reasoning with so much wrong in it that to come in here and try to move us from our positions with its usage, is laughable and makes us feel embarrassed for you.
As well, you have to understand that most of the atheists here at WWGHA were former theists themselves of many years, myself 40+, and that anything that comes out of your keyboard is surely just more of the nonsensical drivel that we used to speak of and now see all the time from others. You have nothing new. Or do You ?
You see, we all enjoy a good discussion but what we here are most looking for is not more mere words, but for someone to point us to the hard, tangible, clear, unambiguous, external of the mind kind of perceptional evidence that convinces one of an actual truth. But you know right well that you can't do that, because ancient bible god has been reduced down to a mere abstraction in this the 21st. century, an unsupportable idea that exists in an unseen world where no human can go....your mind.
The human mind, because of knowledge and the findings of science, is quite capable of understanding now that the use of theism, the practice of religion, and the belief in the supernatural, is infantile, stifling to the mind, unproductive to actual human need, and an enemy of good mental health.
Rational thinking and science have driven the god idea out into the fog. Could you be brave enough and muster up the fortitude to understand and accept that god(whatever the fuck that means) is just an abstract idea
born of primitive ignorance ? It's only poor mental health that makes one in this day and age believe and practice the primitive reasoning of ancient and ignorant savages.
I hope so...and as far as heaven goes ? Well, if you decide reject the god idea, then the rejection of heaven naturally follows.
It's a struggle I know, but the journey back to good mental health is well worth it.