Velkyn: "This is just a riot. So, you’ve decided that the “truth” is different from reality."
Bingo! Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding....Velkyn is close....Woho...Woho...
Truth is reality. Science isn't truth.
Truth is based on fact, not lies or wishful thinking.
There is more truth in one verse of scripture than whats in a math or science book!
Humans need oxygen to live, if you inhibit that with, say water, you die. Nah, I guess according to you, this is a lie. The Bible might say, yes, you'll die... but Science will explain every little detail instead of the All Knowing God's answer, "godidit."
I'll add something else. Science is a collection of facts and thru repeated tests we can determine whether it is a fact or not.
Scientific Fact: The Earth is Spherical.
Bible "Truth": The Earth is Flat.
God gave us math and science for our benefit.
God's "Math": Pi = 3
God didn't "give" us math and Science. Echos don't happen because some God makes it happen. Humans realized Biblical "truth" didn't match reality, because it's a lie and then decided to try to figure it out in spite of God.
God says, "Obey me, do not Question." : "Do not eat from this tree!"
Science is: You propose a question, "Will I die if I eat this?" then Test to find out. Eat... did not die.
Some claim refrigeration was the most significant innovation that catapulted us to where we are today technologically; less labor on food production due to better storage capabilities allowing more time for scientific studies.
Refrigeration is nice. It is created using Scientific Laws regarding volume, pressure and temperature. The Bible gave us none of this information. We had to figure it all out on our own. This came from Science books. Science that is based on Repeatable Facts. Therefore this is True, not a Lie.
Adam lived what, to 900 years old?
Proof outside of mythology please.
Life expectancy just fifty years ago was what?
A heck of a lot better than it was during Herod's Reign. No thanks to God.
Thank God for science
God hates those that question instead of being obedient, you're thanking the wrong ones.
and the medical breakthroughs
So spit on a blind person's eyes and they can see again? Oh wait, we have Reality to deal with. Religion interferes with Medical breakthroughs. Every step of the way... because taking an Asprin you're in defiance against God for giving you that Headache. Suffering is good for the soul, did you know that? You're supposed to thank God for the headache and try to figure out 'Why' he gave it to you and 'What' you needed to learn. When you do that, then God takes the Headache away. Science and Medicine or God and Miracles. You cannot have it both ways.
we are reaping (not creating, just figuring out).
We're learning because our All-Knowing God would rather have us suffer, to just shut up and be obedient. We realized if we rely on God, no healing will happen so we had to take matters into our own hands.
Velkyn, we haven't created anything, we have only taken those things around us, applied mechanical and/or physical laws (which were here either at creation or since the primordial gooz), and engineered the rest.
Just because we don't magically make a house appear, yet instead someone makes the architectual drawings, aquire the resources needed to build, get the permits, blah, lots of manual labor then, finally there's a house. Sorry, your "explanation" discredits every single person involved in the entire process. Yes, Humans did Create the House. It wasn't "rediscovered."
Again I ask. Do you guys finally have it figured out?????
You think you do?
How did the universe begin? Was physics different then (before you answer remember; the heat of compression trumps the force of gravity)?
You think you know the answer? What? Goddidit? Goddidit is a not an answer. It is a nonanswer. You can apply this "answer" to everything... which means in the end, this "answer" means nothing.
For you, Godidit is the perfect answer for "What causes an echo?"
Back to the Truth: John 14:6 - Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me".
Every single ex-christian on this site knows this verse. The fact that you said it proves you are not in any communication for an All-Knowing God because you just insulted us. I'm surprised you didn't type out John 3:16 as well. Using Bible verses to us is like a muslim using the Qu'ran to convince us. ie. Not happening.
The Truth is a person - Jesus Christ.
Truth is based on Fact. It is not a person. It may be true a certain person existed/exists but thier very existence is not 'Truth.'
And to blow your mind
The only mind blown is your own.
even further: John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it....verse 14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us...
Outside of the Bible and John this means nothing. This is simply trying to "explain" why Jews who knew nothing of Jesus was "really" there at the beginning. "Really!" Funny, considering how this All-Knowing God waited till the NT to say anything about him. Remember, they were waiting for someone born from woman that gets knocked up by a guy from the lineage from David. Isiah was "fufilled" in Isiah 8.
Velkyn, if you want to be a hero amoung the BBT and evolution crowd, just write the following: "In the beginning was star stuff. All things came into being through this stuff, and apart from Star Stuff nothing came into being that has come into being." So you plagiarize the Bible....Your guys won't know. And we're just idiots, who'll listen to us?
Looks like V beat me. But I was going to leave this part for her anyways.