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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #87 on: September 03, 2011, 10:35:17 AM »
I did pray for you all yesterday and I didn't knew why I was crying and feeling so weak, now that I read your comments I think some of you might have a very strong evil influence, I cannot imagine why you care so much about my prayers. At the end I had the feeling that I did something, but I still have a lot of praying to do.

Revival, if you learn anything here, let it be this:

Atheists aren't evil, nor are we under any supernatural influence. We aren't angry with your god. We can't be angry with him because he is a fictional character of Hebrew mythology. That would be the equivalent of you being angry with Voldemort, and that would be irrational wouldn't it?

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #88 on: September 03, 2011, 11:43:53 AM »
I think some of you might have a very strong evil influence

That's a really offensive thing to say.  I thought we were finally starting to make some progress against the myth that atheists must be motivated by evil.  I guess we'll just have to keep up the fight.

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I cannot imagine why you care so much about my prayers.

As is usually the case with atheists, we have different reasons.  For my own part, there are times when I do appreciate it when someone says that they'll pray for me (even though I don't think it will do any good), but this isn't one of them.  When a complete stranger says this to me, all I hear is smug, arrogant, condescension.  I don't want or need your pity.

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At the end I had the feeling that I did something, but I still have a lot of praying to do.

Please do me the courtesy of not including me in your prayers.  Thank you.
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #89 on: September 03, 2011, 12:18:52 PM »
people dont believe in God because of the Bible or proves, they believe because of personal experiences. That's the whole point I made.

Well there's the thing. What people believe has no actual bearing on what is factually true.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2011, 12:52:49 PM »
Yup. I'm an evil bastard alright. That's why I volunteer my time at the SPCA and donate blood and help my friends and family when they need it. Pure evil, that's me.

Revival; What is it about not believing in your God that makes me evil? This is really the only difference between the two of us, you believe in a god and I don't. Now here's a good question for you: If I stole money from charities, burnt down houses for fun and abused animals just for the pleasure of watching them suffer, BUT I believed in God, would I still be evil?

No dodging, that's a yes or no question.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #91 on: September 03, 2011, 01:24:50 PM »
DP86: I didn't say you or anyone else in this forum is "evil", that's you who are saying it.

Your questions are pretty simple, I guess you're a simple person :) all that matters is if you are a good person, being trully good is harder without God, that's all. So, someone who "believes" in God and acts wrong is not "good", eitherway it's not my call... the point is pretty simple actually and you dont even need to read the Bible to get it: "Be good".

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #92 on: September 03, 2011, 01:32:48 PM »
DP86: I didn't say you or anyone else in this forum is "evil", that's you who are saying it.

Your questions are pretty simple, I guess you're a simple person :)

Stop being a prick, please. If we were having a discussion in person would you be treating us like that? You've been insulting us in that condescending fashion for nearly 60 posts now. It's un-fucking-necessary.
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #93 on: September 03, 2011, 01:52:23 PM »
You seem to be partialized with your claims, I think you must be ignoring what most people in this forum have posted. Actually my posts are pretty clean from insults, would you deny DP86's questions are plain simple for example? I dont think I insulted him.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #94 on: September 03, 2011, 02:03:24 PM »
You seem to be partialized with your claims, I think you must be ignoring what most people in this forum have posted. Actually my posts are pretty clean from insults, would you deny DP86's questions are plain simple for example? I dont think I insulted him.

Is English your primary language? You pretty much stated that he was simple-minded (therefore lacking intelligence).

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #95 on: September 03, 2011, 02:12:02 PM »
Is not my primary languaje, and I didn't said simple minded.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2011, 02:19:43 PM »
Is not my primary languaje, and I didn't said simple minded.

OK, a heads up then. If you say someone is a simple person, in general English useage, that often implies they are stupid. You might want to avoid that in future.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #97 on: September 03, 2011, 02:21:27 PM »
People too should try not to show themselves as simpletons.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #98 on: September 03, 2011, 02:23:06 PM »
People too should try not to show themselves as simpletons.

Indeed. I would advise you to take your own advice in that respect.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #99 on: September 03, 2011, 02:24:07 PM »
Thanks, advice taken... it is impossible tho to avoid people from thinking whatever they want from others.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #100 on: September 03, 2011, 02:25:27 PM »
Thanks, advice taken... it is impossible tho to avoid people from thinking whatever they want from others.

You can, however, control whether or not it is true.
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #101 on: September 03, 2011, 02:35:19 PM »
People is not really interested in truth Alzael, you should know better.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #102 on: September 03, 2011, 02:49:21 PM »
People is not really interested in truth Alzael, you should know better.

I take it you are psychologically projecting your own lack of interest in truth onto others, since you currently have no valid arguments .
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #103 on: September 03, 2011, 02:53:58 PM »
I did pray for you all yesterday and I didn't knew why I was crying and feeling so weak, now that I read your comments I think some of you might have a very strong evil influence
 

DP86: I didn't say you or anyone else in this forum is "evil", that's you who are saying it.


No. It's YOU who's saying it.

And how is it harder to be "truly good" without god? Current prison statistics in North America would claim the contrary is true, there are alot more christian/religious inmates than there are atheist inmates.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #104 on: September 03, 2011, 02:54:42 PM »
People is not really interested in truth Alzael, you should know better.

I can't help but think this is accidental honestly.
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #105 on: September 03, 2011, 02:57:49 PM »
Depends on what you consider valid, for example... all of you haven't been able to change my mind so far = any of your arguments have proven to be valid until now.

Thanks Aaron123.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #106 on: September 03, 2011, 03:00:36 PM »
Thanks Aaron123.

So you, in fact, have no interest in truth?

Nice to have that cleared up.
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #107 on: September 03, 2011, 03:01:33 PM »
Depends on what you consider valid, for example... all of you haven't been able to change my mind so far = any of your arguments have proven to be valid until now.

Again, we have been pointing out your fallacies, which is the most logical thing we can do. I don't think we'll be able to change your mind. You are stubborn and irrational.
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #108 on: September 03, 2011, 03:22:06 PM »
People is not really interested in truth Alzael, you should know better.

I have always had a vested interest in the truth. Do not assume that your shortcomings and limitations apply to everyone. You should now better.
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #109 on: September 03, 2011, 03:28:22 PM »
Alzael... how your personal claim (which we dont know if it's true) could have any importance in what I said?

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #110 on: September 03, 2011, 03:31:41 PM »
Alzael... how your personal claim (which we dont know if it's true) could have any importance in what I said?

It directly contradicts what you said about people not caring about the truth. I care, and last I checked I was a person. I'm not entirely certain about whether you are though. I think you're more of a caricature of a person. Either way you lied and claimed things you had no business claiming.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #111 on: September 03, 2011, 04:07:38 PM »
You're a person, but you're not people.

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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #112 on: September 04, 2011, 08:45:34 PM »
well vindication looks like I was right when I told this moron to get the FUCK out in the other thread
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #113 on: September 04, 2011, 08:53:17 PM »
well vindication looks like I was right when I told this moron to get the FUCK out in the other thread

I never questioned you because I had a feeling that Revival was only here to harass and belittle us, and I figured it was only a matter of time before (s)he would be reported enough to be banned, even before the "confession". So yes, IMHO you were right.
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #114 on: September 04, 2011, 09:00:05 PM »
thanks CG
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Re: One logical reason god might not heal amputees
« Reply #115 on: September 04, 2011, 09:08:31 PM »
No prob, 12!  :)

I can get very outspoken against the people who come in here trying to undermine a serious discussion among sincere members with their little tricks. I was surrounded by illogical and prejudiced theists my entire (short) life, so I will tell them not to waste my time when they get in my (figurative) face during a discussion.
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