Q: Who is God?
A: He is the Creator of everything, his son is Jesus and his mother is Mary. I think...
I think you mean to say that Mary is the mother of Jesus. Not of God...
Q: Who created God?
A: Good question, but no one created God, not even God himself. He is the Uncreated Creator, that's why he has no appearance
Around here this is known as special pleading.
The argument usually goes like this:
1) Everything has a beginning / is created.
2) So the universe must have a beginning / must have been created.
3) God created the universe.
Atheist: Since everything has a beginning / is created, then what created God?
Theist: Oh, but my God does not have a creator. God is the uncreated creator of everything. <-- Special pleading
Q: Is the bible true?
A: I'm pretty sure it's 100% true. Besides, I heard that scientists heard Egypt in the bible, so he started finding it, and they found it (I think they found more ancient cities found in the bible)
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but the bible surely is not 100% true.
The mentioning of real places is no evidence for the happenings described in the story. If you follow that line of thinking, then Sherlock Holmes, Doctor Watson and Professor Moriarty must have been real persons. After all, the places mentioned in the books do
Some things from the bible that are not true:
Creation in six days, the world is only 6000 years old, bats are birds, insects have four legs, a worldwide flood, the tower of Babylon, the enslavement of the Jewish people in Egypt, the seven plagues on Egypt, the destruction of the pharaoh's army, the complete Exodus, King David's kingdom as described in the bible, the destruction of Jericho, the census at the supposed time of Jesus' birth, the killing of the infants, Jesus as described in the bible, the constant gathering of thousands of Jews watching Jesus in an area occupied by the Roman empire, the crucifixion as described in the bible, the darkness of the sun following said crucifixion, the earthquake, the zombie invasion of Jerusalem (Yes, that is really
written in the bible; I'm really not making this up) etc. etc. etc.
Q: Why is there an old testament?
A: I skipped that part due to its history. (me dunt liek history ) It shows on what happened in the past, and it happened before Jesus came. So basically it was created by God for Jews.
You should read the old testament. It will show God to be one of the most unpleasant, incompetent, vile, disgusting, horrifying, brutal and homicidal characters in human fiction.
Oh, and before I forget it: You do know that Jesus said repeatedly that all
rules in the OT are still in full effect, right? You don't get to heaven if you don't follow them.
Q: Why God doesn't show himself to us?
A: If your talking about God The Father, he doesn't have an appearance. If your talking about Jesus, its because it's not in his plan, or some other reason that doesn't waste his time (sorry if i offend you )
You really should have a look at the OT.
Not only does God have an appearance, he actually has a body like us (he's strolling through the garden Eden for example).
Besides, if God has no appearance, how can we have been created in his likeness?
Q: I saw these miracles and they said God did it. Are they true?
A: It really depends, some are and some are not. The false ones are just to bring attention, period. The true ones, however, are kind of hard to believe. But very few have enough proof to be real and from God.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
There are a lot of Muslims, Hindus and believers from other religions claiming miracles of their gods, too. Do you accept those too on the same flimsy basis as you accept the Christian "miracles" as true?
Q: Why doesn't God help us?
A: You are dead wrong. God DOES help us, just indirectly. Let's say this: A bear was peacefully eating blueberries, until 2 hunters came and is aiming at the bear with guns. You saw them, and wanted to help the bear, so you chop a tree down blocking the hunters sight and letting the bear live and run away from the hunters. It's like that, he indirectly helps us.
Not to be rude, but this is mere wishful thinking.
Replace "God" in the above paragraph with Vishnu, Allah, Quetzalcoatl or the Flying Spaghetti Monster and the whole thing makes as much sense as before. It's almost as if there was no divine intervention at all...
Q: Why God doesn't answer our prayers?
A: He does, but indirectly. Like if you wanted to be guided to a town while it's midnight and your lost in a forest. God will send a light bug or something and it will lead you to a town. It's like that. But most of the time he doesn't answer our prayers. If we tell him "Please answer this prayer", what does he have to say? Nothing. If you tell him a prayer like "Today was really great", he won't answer because he has nothing to say.
1) "Sometimes the answer is No" is a cop out. Prayers to God get fulfilled at the same rate as prayers to a milk jug or a paperclip.
2) You do know that in the bible Jesus says repeatedly that a believer can ask God for anything and God will not
Q: Is Jesus really the son of God?
A: Yes, he said that A MILLION TIMES (expression). He did miracles, but are they true? Look to the next question!
A character in a book saying something does not make it true.
According to the quran Jesus said he was not the son of God. Instead Mohammed says a million times Allah is the one true God and he is his prophet. Why don't you believe that?
Q: Are Jesus' miracles true?
A: Many do not believe Jesus' miracles because it's too hard to believe. Our minds are basic, only designed for free will.
I said it already: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Do you believe in the miracles performed by the Buddha? If not, why not?
Oh, and by the way: There is no free will. The bible says so. According to the bible, God has decided your fate long before you were born. Your actions are all predetermined by God.
Q: Why is there suffering in the world?
A: We do many bad things, and we really arn't supposed to avoid the sufferings. Jesus has a plan that no one can understand. There are reasons why there are suffering in this world, maybe because we sinned way too much, or maybe so they can believe in Jesus, I don't even know.
If God and Jesus have a plan for the world, then everything evil that happens is part of that plan and ultimately caused by God since it's part of the plan.
So by your own argument (and according to the bible actually) God is the source of all sin, evil and suffering.
Q: Why is there evil in the world?
A: Ahhh, something so I can really express my opinion to others! The Devil (Satan) does not bring evil to the world, but us.
Once, Adam and Eve had a peaceful life, everything was perfect, they also did not eat meat (it explains how Adam died in in the age of 821 or something). But, they ate the fruit of the Knowledge, which gave us a taste of what is good and bad. They only ate a bite, not a whole, so this bite from Adam and Eve... Changed our world, forever. God then punished them, then their children sinned, and their grandchildren sinned, and so on. BUT, some people did not sin (Noah, for example). We cause evil, because we cause sins to others. For example; We steal, the one who got stolen does revenge; Someone murders, someone avenges the one who got murdered by killing; Someone died, someone goes nuts.
I will have to go a little in depth here.
Once, Adam and Eve had a peaceful life, everything was perfect, they also did not eat meat (it explains how Adam died in in the age of 821 or something).
You do realize that this is just a story, right?
But, they ate the fruit of the Knowledge, which gave us a taste of what is good and bad. They only ate a bite, not a whole, so this bite from Adam and Eve... Changed our world, forever. God then punished them,
There's a major problem with the story of Adam and Eve.
Adam and Eve were created without the knowledge of what is good and what is bad. But without such knowledge it is impossible for a human to make any kind of decisions about which actions are right and which are wrong. Then Adam and Eve were given the order not to eat from the tree of knowledge, because to do so would be bad...
Do you see the problem here?
And let's not forget the snake. God created the snake and put it in the garden (along with the tree), knowing full well what would happen but that did not stop him. And no, before you say it, the snake was not
the devil. The snake was a snake.
The whole thing is like putting a young child in a room and you lay a cookie in front of him. Then, before leaving the room, you tell the child not to eat it. Then another adult (which you invited to come into the room and you know full well what he's going to do) comes in and tells the child to eat the cookie.
In God's case, God would come back into the room and beat the s**t out of the child for eating the cookie after the other adult told the child to do it.
God punishes Adam and Eve for disobeying an order they could not follow simply because they did not understand it without having eaten the fruit.
then their children sinned, and their grandchildren sinned, and so on.
Actually, according to the bible we don't get condemned for our own actions but what condemns us is the original sin of Adam and Eve eating the fruit (which is why according to the bible dead babies go to hell since they too carry the original sin and they don't believe in Jesus yet).
God condemns people to eternal torture in hell for something they had absolutely no say in.
Adam and Eve sinned by eating the fruit but instead of just punishing Adam and Eve, God punishes all humans.
Tell me, Avascar, is it good and just to punish all for the actions of two?
BUT, some people did not sin (Noah, for example).
It's interesting that God wipes out all humans on earth except for a sinless family, yet afterward sin is still there as if nothing happened.
Read the old testament; God is utterly incompetent. The fun part is that he's powerful enough to create the universe but later humans with iron chariots are too powerful for him to beat (Yes, that's exactly what the bible says. Read it, if you don't believe me.)
Q: Why did the flood occured during Noah's time?
A: Noah was the only good person (literally) in the whole world. God The Father wanted to wipe out all the humans except Noah and his family and animals. Why did God did this? Imagine your friend kicking you and stealing your stuff, and the murdering you in a night. Scary huh? Yeah, they were that bad. So God told Noah to make an ark and gather all the animals and stuff.
So what about all those children and the babies? Were they completely evil, too?
And if everyone was so evil, how come they just stood by while Noah was building his ark?
How come an omniscient God comes up with a plan that fails so miserably at eradicating sin?
And you do know that this is merely a story, right? There was no worldwide flood. Not only is there no evidence of a global flood, but the whole story is so utterly ridiculous. I will go further into this if need be.
Q: Did God really create the Earth in seven days?
A: Yes, he did. Some people said it took billions of years, there wrong. Changing and creating is completely different. It took billions of years to change the Earth, it only took 7 days to create the Earth. You heard of the Big Bang? If true, the Big Bang lasted 0.0000000001 millisecond (Or something). Then God merged rocks and put magma in it, then let it rotate to a sun at the perfect distance, then God changed the world so we humans can live.
Except that our solar system (including the earth) was not "created" in seven days.
Q: Why in the old testament it says that those who sinned must be put to death?
A: There's a reason why it's called the Old Testament, can't you read the Table of Contents in the Bible?
We all deserve to be put to death, but God gave us another chance by sending Jesus and he died for our sins.
Deserve to be put to death? That's the kind of attitude that devalues life (both your own and that of everybody else)
And I will say it again: Jesus himself said that the rules of the OT are not
abolished. They are in full effect to the last point and stroke of the letter.
Q: When will be the end of the world?
A: Even Jesus doesn't even know when the world will end. God The Father has all knowledge (obvious), and there in the bible Jesus said his last words: My God My God, Why have you forsaken me?
The end of the world will either be in several billion years when the sun will expand and first burn this planet to a crisp before swallow it or when a giant meteor or an off course planetoid crashes into it.
If you mean the end of the world as described in the bible, I'm sorry to disappoint you but that's fiction.
Q: When I told God I want something, why didn't he gave me the gift?
A: If you asked for him like "I want to kill everyone!" that's an obvious no. If you asked him like "I want a desktop!" he'll give you a better gift. If you asked him like "I want money!" then he'll say no because there's no reason for God to give you money, just for your greed. If you asked him with a reason like "I want money so I can feed my family!" He'll send someone or something that is unexpected and give you some money. If you ask him something impossible like "I want a farm in our desert!" He'll give you something better because the impossible is limited in our minds.
Except that Jesus himself says that every
prayer will be fulfilled.
'Whatever you ask in my name, it will be given to you', moving mountains and so on.
Q: Why are you doing this?
A: I was so frustrated that you all don't believe in God. So I came here, and wanted to show you guys this.
What exactly frustrates you about people not believing in your god (or any gods for that matter)?
Q: Why God hides himself?
A: I don't know. But it's part of his plan, many are really curious about this. But in my opinion, read this: Let's say I'm God (for example). I created you all, and then many of you don't believe in me. I'm kind of angry, and I see you guys turn evil very slowly, but in heaven 1000 years in Earth if a day in heaven, so I see you guys change a lot. But all of you wanted to see me, I refuse because that is not in my plan. It will waste my time, I don't have the time to do something so pathetic. (Sorry if I offend you )
No time to do something so pathetic? Do you realize that you are disassembling your whole God with that sentence?
Is God not omnipotent? If he is, then how can anything waste his time? It's not possible.
Is God not all-loving? If he is, then how can saving his beloved creation be wasting his time?
And let's not forget about God's plan. If God has a plan, then me being an atheist (and subsequently going to hell for that) IS
part of God's plan. In that case I was made by God to go to hell.
(The bible actually confirms that. God has determined your eternal traveling destination long before you were even born. He makes some people just so he can send them to hell.)
Q: Why do you believe in God?
A: 1: I don't want to go to Hell. 2: Just to be safe. 3: I just do. 4: It's my life. 5: He cheers me up.
If God cheers you up, you obviously have not read the OT.
Q: (by someone who asked me a question in my intro thread) How do I know my particular version of religion is the OneTrueChristian?
A: The bible brings true christians. Edited Bibles are not. If you are a Christian, you may want to read The New Testament to know Jesus' teachings well, in my deep honest opinion. You can skip the old testament, which is old.... And a testament... And is old...
That made me chuckle actually.
Yes, the bible brings forth True ChristiansTm
. That's what every single one of the 38000 different Christian denominations say about their members while claiming the other 37999 denominations are not True ChristiansTm
Besides, it may come as a surprise to you, but the overwhelming majority of us has not only read the NT but also the OT. A lot of us atheists have been Christians before. And many actually tried to strengthen their declining faith by reading the bible...only to declare themselves atheists by the time they were through the book.
I guess that's about it. Please reply and don't hate me for this!
No one is going to hate you for posting this.
Actually, if you'd like to experience how it is to be truly hated, you should try joining a Christian forum and politely say that you are an atheist. In most cases that will be your only post before you are being banned while your thread (if it's not deleted right away) fills with message from members gleefully telling you that you will be tortured forever by God.
Edit: For now I have not included the respective bible verses. It's late here and for now I just wanted to finish this post. If they are needed or Avascar wants to check it in his own bible that I'm not making things up, I will provide the bible verses in another post.