Where is this awesome shredding BTW? I seem to have missed it.
Here, have a look:
A response to the video "Why does every intelligent Christian disobey Jesus"?Not a lot of shredding done on his part. A lot of shredding of his arguments done by forum members though. The one thing that prominently stood out was his constant claiming that the bible and all those nasty passages "obviously" had to be interpreted as metaphor but despite constant requests he failed at showing how to determine literal from metaphorical content of the bible, he failed at explaining why there are over 30000 Christian denominations all interpreting the bible differently (and are often at odds with each other about what God and the bible
really meant) and last but not least he failed to explain why his personal interpretation of certain parts as a metaphor should be given any merit over the countless other interpretations by other Christians who take those particular parts as literal or the whole bible as literal.
(Not to forget the whole episode in which he says the commandment to love your fellow man does in no way prohibit the killing of the "fellow man" by good Christians.)
Just like his new OP is not any better either. For the most part it can be summed up with "I can't see this happening to me, so it does not happen at all."
That's one of the problems with a lot of theists coming here. Most of them don't notice any of this behavior of "good Christians" towards atheists because they are part of the in-group and they aren't facing the pointy end of the sticks their fellow Christians are holding.
1. "You might lose your job." Nope, my job has no relation to my religion.
A great number of atheists living in the bible belt dare to think otherwise. We also have some self-employed members here who would lose most of their customers in those areas if they made their non-belief known, effectively resulting in them going out of business.
2. "You might get arrested." Nope, I live in a country (the United States) where everyone may practice the religion of their choice.
Sorry, but wrong again.
One of the most prominent examples would be David Mills, who tried to organize a protest against a faith healer coming to his town (in the US I might add). He knew when it comes to believers having their belief threatened, things can often get quite heated (Have a look at the mailbag for examples).
Naturally he contacted the local police office for protection of the protest against the "Miracle Rally" of the faith healer.
He spoke with three officers. The first one told him he planned to attend the rally himself and would spit in Mill's face if he saw him. The second one flat out told Mills if anything happened and no matter who started it, they'd arrest Mills and his fellow protesters because they were trying to interfere with God's work. And last but not least the third police officer told him to go to hell, that nobody wants to protect atheists and he hoped somebody would bloody Mills up good.
And quite a while back I also remember a post on this forum of a fellow forum member who got a bit of police harassment for having a Darwin fish bumper sticker on his car.
In fact there's no country in the world where you can get arrested for switching from Christianity to atheism,
Try that in the African countries where there are wars fought over who's sides Christianity is right. Try that in the African countries that made homosexuality a crime (with support and guidance from Christian organizations from the US). You should have tried that during the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina (a war that was all about religious beliefs).
while their are a number of countries run by atheists where you'll get arrested if you switch from atheism to Christianity. Cuba and China are two examples.
Except that none of these arrests happen "in the name of atheism." If there was a freethinker organization trying to form in China, the members would be arrested too.
These countries have no state religion but none of their actions are done in the name of atheism.
3. "You might get beaten." Nope. Just as with the previous one, there's no place where leaving Christianity will get anyone beaten, but plentiful places where leaving atheism will get you beaten.
You obviously haven't talked to any atheists who live in the bible belt of the USA.
It doesn't take a lot of searching to find quite news not only about the destruction of property merely for being connected to atheists and freethinkers but also news about atheists getting a fist in the face for as much as hanging up posters advertising for an atheist event.
As many members on this board have said it in one way or the other: In certain corners of the US even going so far as having a simple atheist bumper sticker on your car will mean that when you return to your parked car it has a lot more bumps, dents and scratches in the paint than it had before. And if you arrive at the wrong time you end up with a lot more bumps, dents and scratches, too.
4. "Your kids might get kicked out of the Boy Scouts." First I don't have kids.
Irrelevant.
Second, if I did, they probably wouldn't be in Boy Scouts.
Irrelevant.
This is not exclusively about Boy Scouts. It's about a whole lot of organizations that emphasize on the belief in God and simply don't want neither you nor your kids as a member if you don't share their belief.
Third, if I had kids in Boy Scouts, my religious decisions would not get them kicked out.
You might want to research that a bit more...
5. "You would be shunned by friends and family." My family is mostly atheists. It's funny that the video maker would think that atheists would be so small-minded as to stop liking a person merely because they changed their religious viewpoint. Certainly none of my Christian friends would do such a thing.
Funny thing you say that.
Do we
really have to go through all the countless instances, personal testimonials and reports about Christian family members and friends completely dropping people for openly being atheists? Really?
This is once again a case of "I don't believe this could happen to me, so it never happens."
In my previous thread, nobody was able to defend what the video said, so the responses mostly attacked me or changed the subject.
You do realize that people can still read the old thread, right?
It was more like you were unable to defend your own reasoning.
If no one can defend it, I guess I'll assume that the video maker resorted to these absurd lies because he knows that the truth always works against atheism and for Christianity.
Oh, that had me laugh out so loud I made the cat wake up and run out of the room.