I am glad that you agree that persecution of Christians in China is taking place. I've never said that it implies that atheists are evil, or anything of that sort. I merely pointed to China as an example to disprove the video's claims. According to the video, Christians need to consider that we're only Christians because we're afraid of being beaten and arrested. Yet in China there are 100,000,000 Christians who risk being beaten and arrested because they are Christians. If they converted from Christianity to atheism they would no longer be at that risk, since they'd be following the religious viewpoint of the government. So where's the logic of saying that fear of arrest and beatings causes people to be Christians in this case?
I knew this was going on; it's horrible. I don't like it. Everyone is free to think what they think. Communism is against that. And like I stated earlier, the reason as to why China is largely bereft of faith is due to their ideals. Confucianism is a philosophical stance as well as Taoism. These people majorly don't believe in deities; it has been this way for a couple of centuries (before, they were kinda
religious; the Emperor was the mandate of heaven, he was the connection to the heavens, etc.). So, they are pretty much atheists. However, Communism in China has allowed religions and any strong ideal alike to be persecuted (this goes for any
religion that is capable of giving the people power and hold group meetings, which is completely unacceptable in Communism, as you well know). I wanted to add that it doesn't make atheism/atheists evil because some Theists like to make the claim "OH, Atheists ARE evil! Look at Stalin/Mao/Pol Pot/Hitler!" when in reality, it is the horrible idea of Communism that puts these people at risk, not atheism. Crimes against humanity, we both agree, are unacceptable, and that everyone should be entitled to their belief.
So, we were talking about China there, yes? Yes.
So, referring to your question: So where's the logic of saying that fear of arrest and beatings causes people to be Christians in this case?
Now that's where we are talking about other
countries that are not under Communist rule. I could use the Nazi regime to show that atheists were being killed in concentration camps, not just Jews et al. (the rest of the people that were deemed "worthless"), but that's unfair comparison, considering they were Communists. So, I will not make a reduction to the absurd, because that is disrespectful, considering that not all Christians/any religious peoples are like that. Regarding your question, the fear of arrests, beatings, injustices, and discrimination through harassment and violence that we're talking about here would be for example, within the America's Bible Belt.
I know you stated that you lived in the Bible Belt and that nothing happened where you are at, but hear me out here: People can be so self-righteous about their actions against atheists
that they are not going to put this as a news story, but rather, it would be the town gossip, or it would be forgotten about. People can be so bigoted as to attack/ruin these people's lives. I understand some stories appear on blogs or other places on the Internet, but why deny the claim? Why would they lie? We have no reason to. We are not getting profit out of it. We are not making shit up to get sympathy. We are speaking out our fears over the Internet because frankly, the Internet is a free-roaming place. It's much safer here.
People here at the WWGHA forums have spoken out and testified on what happened to them, regarding Christians/any other religion. Does that make the stories false? No. Some people here have grown up/still are within the Bible Belt and shared their calamities. Just because you
didn't see it happen or didn't hear about it does not in any way imply it didn't happen. I want to post more news stories, but it's up to you whether you want to believe them or not. It's not attacking your faith, mind you. It's showing you what some people will do in the name of their faith. Remember, we are talking about one country
right now, and that is the USA. Seppuku named a few other countries in which this discrimination against atheists/people that don't believe enough
takes place, and I'm sure you can do further research yourself instead of asking us directly for more. You have Google. Just search up "countries that discriminate against atheists" or different phrases if you are curious to know
. When I stated earlier that I don't want to post more news stories, only to have them shot down and not even discussed properly like I do with your articles, then I don't want to make the effort because it only gives me the assumption that you only want what you want to hear. Prove me wrong.