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« on: February 24, 2015, 08:14:37 PM »
State GOP is proposing a bill to make Idaho a Christian state.  Isn't that special?

Same place that had a GOP senator who thought you could swallow a camera to see a baby in a woman's body.
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Re: Idaho
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2015, 08:15:56 PM »
Damn, is it really possible that Texas is looking better by the day? Nah...can't be.

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2015, 09:11:57 PM »
North Carolina did the same a couple of years ago:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/04/03/north-carolina-lawmakers-introduce-law-to-establish-an-official-state-religion/

The Idaho thing is one person in one county and others aren't so happy about it, but let's see what the vote is when they have it, not that it'll be legal:

http://m.kxly.com/news/republicans-debating-whether-idaho-should-be-a-christian-state/31459720

Funny thing is, Mississippi actually has a law that states they can ignore laws imposed by the Federal gov't, i.e. the Constitution if it impedes upon one's religion:

http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/03/mississippi-governor-signs-religious-practices-bill/7275461/

Kansas has a similar law enacted, other states (mainly Republican) attempted it but they all failed or were outright rejected.

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 09:38:57 PM »
They are so certain that Christianity is the only religion that exists. They are playing with fire.

I can't wait until some Hindus and Scientologists and Vodun folks start asserting their rights. Can you see some state senator's face when a teacher sacrifices a chicken on school grounds and anoints the children with blood in honor of Papa Legba? Or when people refuse to go to work at state government buildings on Hindu holidays?
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2015, 12:21:37 AM »
Or when people refuse to go to work at state government buildings on Hindu holidays?

And the Hindus have got a TON of holidays. I guess that comes with the polytheistic territory.
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Re: Idaho
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2015, 01:02:49 AM »
Yeah, they say "religion" but they mean Christianity.

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2015, 08:33:36 AM »
Funny thing is, Mississippi actually has a law that states they can ignore laws imposed by the Federal gov't, i.e. the Constitution if it impedes upon one's religion:

I don't find it funny.  This is part of a neoconfederate movement.  Even though the South lost the Civil War, they were very successful at getting some of their bullshit ideas into the national culture.  Ideas like nullification, which this is.  These neoconfederates have more or less taken over the GOP, which is why you hear a lot of talk about voiding federal laws and seceeding.  I think they have been successful lately because the president is a black man. 


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/neo-confederate
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/28/1331734/-The-Civil-War-never-ended-The-neo-Confederate-tea-party-fights-on
http://www.politicalresearch.org/2013/11/22/nullification-neo-confederates-and-the-revenge-of-the-old-right/
http://www.salon.com/2014/07/01/christian_right_secession_fantasy_spooky_neo_confederate_talk_grows_louder_at_the_fringes/

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2015, 08:36:07 AM »
Yeah, they say "religion" but they mean Christianity.

You make it sound like there are other, equally (in)valid religions. &)

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2015, 01:03:47 PM »
Funny thing is, Mississippi actually has a law that states they can ignore laws imposed by the Federal gov't, i.e. the Constitution if it impedes upon one's religion:

I don't find it funny.  This is part of a neoconfederate movement.  Even though the South lost the Civil War, they were very successful at getting some of their bullshit ideas into the national culture.  Ideas like nullification, which this is.  These neoconfederates have more or less taken over the GOP, which is why you hear a lot of talk about voiding federal laws and seceeding.  I think they have been successful lately because the president is a black man. 


http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/ideology/neo-confederate
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/09/28/1331734/-The-Civil-War-never-ended-The-neo-Confederate-tea-party-fights-on
http://www.politicalresearch.org/2013/11/22/nullification-neo-confederates-and-the-revenge-of-the-old-right/
http://www.salon.com/2014/07/01/christian_right_secession_fantasy_spooky_neo_confederate_talk_grows_louder_at_the_fringes/



You do know what "Funny thing is" means, right? It's an idiom for finding something peculiar rather than actually funny[1].

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2015, 02:16:36 PM »
You're funny.
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Re: Idaho
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2015, 02:26:22 PM »
I don't presuppose a god. I presuppose a delusion of something that doesn't exist based off the lack of evidence for it.

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2015, 05:02:40 PM »
You're funny.

I am. Thank you.

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Funny looking or funny smelling? You do dance funny.
Extraordinary claims of the bible don't even have ordinary evidence.

Kids aren't paying attention most of the time in science classes so it seems silly to get worked up over ID being taught in schools.

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2015, 08:25:48 PM »
You're funny.

I am. Thank you.

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Funny looking or funny smelling? You do dance funny.

Were you at Magic Kingdom in 1994? Everyone told me I danced good.

...except the ones who didn't.

;)

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Re: Idaho
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2015, 10:02:16 PM »
That North Carolina bill (H.J.R. 494) was filed on April 1, 2013 and appears to have never gone anywhere. An elaborate prank, maybe?

http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2013&BillID=h+494


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Re: Idaho
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2015, 10:28:28 PM »
I think they have been successful lately because the president is a black man.

Maybe, but this is not unprecedented. Remember the big surge of "militia", religious, and secessionist nuttery back in the 90's when Bill Clinton was president? Ruby Ridge, Branch Davidians, OKC bombing, Republic of Texas, etc.? I suspect that any Democratic president would have sufficed, black or not. Hell, even George W. Bush was too far left for some of these nuts.


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Re: Idaho
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2015, 02:14:35 AM »
That North Carolina bill (H.J.R. 494) was filed on April 1, 2013 and appears to have never gone anywhere. An elaborate prank, maybe?

http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2013&BillID=h+494



I didn't say it was successful, I said they did the same thing. Which they did.

Wait..."prank" "April 1"...I get it. Never mind.

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