Jeff. very good example.
Thank you for the compliment. Care to answer my questions?
I have an example for you too. If you made this highly sophisticated humanoid.
This humanoid loves you and you loved it.
but this humanoid disobeyed you and did something terrible that it needs to be destroyed by some kind of federal law or something.
And you didn't want that to happen so you gave up something that is the most important in you life(you pick it!) and save this humanoid. Happy ending?
But now problem begins, this humanoid will not stop doing this bad things, so you tell him to stop and he says "no. by the way. who are you? telling me what to do? I will do whatever I want to do" and you tell him "I made you and I had to sacrificed my most precious to save you, just to save you"
And he says "oh ya I don't believe it. by the way if your my creator, prove it. I have my buddy humanoid that just lost his toe, you make it regrow, then I will believe you. So you did it but he still won't believe.
Let me just sum this up by saying this... If you think, for one second, I would have done things similarly to the way your God supposedly did them in this little speech here, then you are out of your freaking mind. There are so many problems with this example that I don't even know where to start.
Here are miracles my lord performed about 2000 years ago and people still did't believe.
Snip for brevity.
You forget, I don't think the bible is true. BUT you're in luck! If you can prove, (solid evidence here) with an outside source, that Jesus actually did ANY of the miracles you say here, then you will have a captive audience, and I will take you seriously. Otherwise, it's leprechauns and blue sky and I have no reason to believe a word of it. And neither should you. In fact, you should be embarrassed by it.
There have been many religions throughout history that hinge their beliefs on so called miracles. Take heart in knowing that I don't believe them either. But do you? And if you don't, ask yourself why that is. When you answer that question, please know that I apply that same standard to those of YOUR religion. Can you do the same?
I am just servant of my God proclaiming His words.
It is quite possible that you are a servant of a fictitious, mythological being. If you think that is so outlandishly silly, then I ask you to ponder this... Throughout history, millions and billions of people have believed in gods that were different than yours. If you are right, then that makes ALLLLLL of those people wrong, and also makes THEM servants of fictitious, mythological beings. In other words, believing in fictitious, mythological beings is done ALL the time, and has been done for thousands of years. Now, either you personally have stumbled onto the actual truth of the universe, or you personally are doing exactly what millions and billions of people have done before you. Does it seem outlandishly silly now? I didn't think so.
Some will believe some won't. It is kind sad.
Actually, if I'm wrong, at least I can say I was being honest with myself. If you're wrong, then you've lived your life in pursuit of something that is nothing more than 2000 years of horse shit. That would be WAY more sad.
You do not have to believe if you choose not to. History tells people has been searching for hard evidence and proof that God exists or not. However no one really came up with an answer with 100% evidence on either case.
You can't prove something DOESN'T exist, but you can prove that something DOES exist. The fact that you haven't come up with hard evidence is your problem.
You do not see the wind but you believe it exits. Because you feel it.
Yes, and we can test it, and verify it, and speak intelligently on it. None of which you can do with God.
I am sorry for not answering all your questions. but please remember Jesus died for you!.
/gigglesnort. No dude. He didn't. That's a whole different argument. If the story was true (which it's not), then Jesus never died. He just had a bad day or so, then changed his home address from earth to heaven. No sacrifice at all.
2000 years ago my Lord said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do. “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him. (matthew 11:25-27)
Never happened.
I think my job is finished here.
Thank you for listening.
When danger reared it's ugly head, Sir Robin bravely turned and fled!
