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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #203 on: July 27, 2015, 06:06:00 PM »
I don't really see any benefit in making stuff up if you want to convince people of something.
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It seems like if all the supernatural stuff was left out then it would be easier to accept the
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That's apparently not the case.

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So I don't see the value in suggesting anything supernatural happened.
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #204 on: July 27, 2015, 06:20:13 PM »
I don't really see any benefit in making stuff up if you want to convince people of something.

There is such a thing as self deception. It is the commonest kind.

You also need to learn something about ancient composition. Authors were expected to add fictional speeches and illustrative action to give their own meaning to events.

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It seems like if all the supernatural stuff was left out then it would be easier to accept the
entire package.  So I don't see the value in suggesting anything supernatural happened.

At the time of Jesus prophets were expected to do miracles. One of the other Jewish prophets at the time of Jesus led a bunch of people up a hill to do a miracle to impress the crowd to support him.  (it would be a hill wouldn't it? Gods liked hills.) Read Josephus.

Your problem is that you are looking at the text with modern eyes and not really understanding it or its nature.
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Re: There are no contradictions in the Bible!
« Reply #205 on: July 27, 2015, 06:23:25 PM »

The entire book of Revelation is nothing more than a subjective experience that this John fellow supposedly had, detailing fantastical events which haven't happened, and holds together about as well as a wet paper sack.  So don't try to lecture me about critical analysis, as if that would somehow magically make Revelation into a true divine vision granted to John from an angel.

And the first line in Revelations gives the impression that the book is a vision.
You might like to read jaimehlers' post: I have marked his main criticism of the Revelations of John the Divine in red.

Your reply, in blue, merely states that John had a vision. Upon this point you and jaimehlers are agreed. However, the validity of the vision is what is being questioned.

Could you put your mind to responding? Something to indicate the truth value of the Book of Revelations would be helpful. E.g. How can anyone accept Revelations as anything more than the ramblings of a deluded mind?

Looking forward to a solid reply,

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