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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #87 on: November 05, 2010, 01:47:48 AM »


Yes it is. It is a fatal ending for their blatant rejection and rebellion of God.

Again I point out that none of that has happened yet. Satan hasn't rebelled and been sent to hell. For that matter Satan is a servant of god in the old testament. There's never any actual explanation for why he becomes evil. Christians just needed a villain to offset their loving god. But back to the rebellion thing. Clearly god knows that Satan is going to eventually rebel against him, yet he does nothing about it. You would think that if he cared about his creations he would try to help Satan, to lead him away from this path. But no, much like with humans he's all to eager to kick his children out the door into the fires of hell because it apparently gives him his jollies.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #88 on: November 05, 2010, 01:49:46 AM »
So the answer is 'no' then.
The answer is no for what?

Do you have anything to say that hasn't been said by every other mindless christian that comes through here? Clearly you don't read well because I've only mentioned the question two or three times before this. But you've already answered splendidly.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #89 on: November 05, 2010, 01:59:06 AM »
Well then,

 I see that you have never made a wrong decision in your life.
I made plenty of wrong decisions in my life, no point in denying that. I'm mocking you because you believe porn addictions exist.
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I gain nothing by telling you this. I'm being humble
and telling you the truth. Knowing that there will be
people who will mock me. Please don't focus your
attention on me but believe in the one whom God has
sent, Jesus.
Nothing but hollow words.

I bet you've never given it some serious thought, but your copying the zombie-like preachery you've heard so often. Now it's time to step out of your comfort zone.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #90 on: November 05, 2010, 02:03:41 AM »
You are limiting yourself when you decide to overrule GOD. Be honest
with yourself and quit pretending that God owes you anything.  

I'm only going to address this one part, as the rest is just nonsense preaching.

Get this through your head lilbman: atheists are not angry at god.  Atheists don't think god even exists.  Kinda hard to say that god owns me something if I think he's a fictional character.  You might as well say:

Be honest with yourself and quit pretending that Darth Vader owes you anything.

Be honest with yourself and quit pretending that Harry Potter owes you anything.

Be honest with yourself and quit pretending that Spider-Man owes you anything.

...and so forth.  If anyone else said those things, you would dismiss it as nonsense, because you know those are fictional characters.  This is why we dismiss your claims as nonsense.  Because we know your god is a fictional character.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #91 on: November 05, 2010, 02:12:55 AM »

I've answered your questions. I'm trying to help you but you refuse to listen.


We're listening, you're just not saying anything of value.

Your more interested in debating to try and prove yourself right. What good
does that do.

This is a discussion board. What exactly did you think we were here to do? Are you honestly just now grasping the concept because it's been pointed out to you since the very beginning. Why is it christians never seem that quick on the uptake?

You possibly couldn't even begin to know what knowledge is
in the universe yet you mock me because I believe in a Creator. You can only
live up to 120 years of age and from your knowledge, you want to try and
convince me that the is no such thing as a Creator.

None of us fully understand the knowledge of the universe. I mock you because instead of trying to understand that knowledge and truly grasp it, you've decided to remain small and blame everything that your tiny mind can't understand on a Cosmic Sugar Daddy that you can't even begin to prove exists. I don't have to convince you of anything. You're the one that has to lie to yourself to make yourself believe.

You are limiting yourself when you decide to overrule GOD. Be honest
with yourself and quit pretending that God owes you anything.  

No, you limit yourself by relying on this mental Pablum to get you through the difficulties of your life rather than dealing with them on your own terms. You would rather slide on your belly through the muck with that loathsome beast you worship than try to rise to the heights of the stars with those who value intellect and rational thought. The people who actually want to make this better. You would rather accept the answers that are hand-fed to you than go out and seek them yourself. And when you do that you denigrate your own humanity by lowering yourself to gods level and giving up your own thoughts and mind.

Let me ask you this, let's assume for one moment that there actually was a god. This god gave me a brain unlike any other that we have known in the animal kingdom. A brain that is capable of knowing and understanding all of the many billions of incatrices that exist within his creation. A brain that allows me to build machines to travel the stars and communicate with one man on the other side of the world to build a bridge of communication and friendship.What you are saying, is that this god would rather that I not use this magnificent gift that I have been given. That instead I blindly follow him like a sheep and surrender my mind to do only as he wishes. To do this would be to spit in the face of the gift we were given. It is behaviour that seems more along the lines of what an 'adversary' would have us do. Surrender our thoughts to ignorance and doctrine, which has given us endless years of war and cruelty. Rather than use our minds to create a world of beauty and reason, which has given us all that we enjoy now. If there is a god, and if he is a god that cares about us at all, it can only be people like you who are against his will more than any other. Because you disrespect the most precious thing he has given us, spitting in his face and proclaiming yourself a slave, instead of reveling in the true greatness that lies within the minds of all men. Shackled only by ignorance and superstition.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #92 on: November 05, 2010, 02:13:58 AM »
Just another preacher, thinking he, and only he, holds the truth to salvation.

Just another delusionist, wondering why every single person on the planet can't see his incoherent, inconsistent, illogical worldview.

IMO.

Why is no one listening to what i believe? My views are 100% correct because i see words on a piece of paper telling that this is the true path to salvation. It must be true. Why would words lieeeeeeee? lolz.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #93 on: November 05, 2010, 02:17:20 AM »
  For magical things to happen, you must first engage in magical thinking.

Excellent example Aaron, people tends to think that if we just believe in magical things, it will be true. Which explains why my world didn't turn into a ideal paradise for me where all my worries and my woes disappears.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #94 on: November 05, 2010, 02:27:43 AM »
The reason you say this is because you do not want there to be a God.

The reason you say this is because you do not want there to be Zeus.

The thing is, it’s not that we don’t want to believe, it’s just that we have no evidence to rpove that your God exists.

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It has nothing to do with anyone else but yourself. If God were to exist ( and He does) , it's going to be a rude awakening for you.

Wow, nice threat there. “You’re gonna be sorry! My sky daddy will spank you!” Seriously, I could just say the same with Zeus or Vishnu.

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You do not experience the love of God in your life because you do not know who He is. Your not
even willing to compromise. If your happy with believing that, then who is going to change your mind?
It starts with you. If you feel that you have honestly sought God with no results, who to know other
than God and yourself? Only you know within yourself what the answer is.

Translation: Since you don’t know my God well enough, you should just give up thinking and just believe.”

Just believe that the leprechauns exists, maybe they’ll pop up and give you a pot of gold.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #95 on: November 05, 2010, 02:29:32 AM »

Look at what man does with this knowledge. Your thought on wanting to know the universe are good
but your removing the Creator from it. You can only go so far. Religion will make you a slave to religion
but Jesus will free you from that. There's more than you could possibly ever understand. Seek to understand
Jesus first, then you will understand that He is worth more than all knowledge.

Tsk, tsk. All that and your small mind couldn't even begin to understand the point. The creator has no part in it, because there isn't one. If you can't show that a creator exists, which you can't, then believing in it is irrational. It is this poor line of thinking that is the reason for many of the horrible things that happen. It is because they believe without reason or justification, and instead try to cover up their inadequacies and mental failings with the comofrt of an imaginary friend. But I knew that would sail right over your head. And you did not disappoint.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #96 on: November 05, 2010, 02:30:34 AM »

Jesus said in this life we will have tribulation but take heart; He has overcome the world.

Who are you listening to?

Seriously? You believe that words on a piece of paper is true? Just because it said that Jesus says this or that, doesn't make it true. Just saying that Jesus says this is no different than me saying, "Zeus says this, so it must be true."
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #97 on: November 05, 2010, 02:31:06 AM »
Still nothing new? Nothing original? Not a single thought of your own to share? And you wondered why I mock you?
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #98 on: November 05, 2010, 02:32:31 AM »


When you realize that The Holy Bible is true is priceless.

Translation: Look! Words! On a piece of paper! It must be true! WOW WORDS!!
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #99 on: November 05, 2010, 02:36:16 AM »
Like I said God owes you nothing. Realize who you are and where you are. Why your here.
If your happy with not knowing then don't blame God. You can lead a horse to water but
you can't make him drink.

Ah, but when the horse does as it pleases, does it mean it's logical to punish him enternally? If your God wants us to know him, then what's stopping him? If the only way he can do this was just by simply believing without thinking, then he's extremely powerless.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #100 on: November 05, 2010, 02:38:14 AM »
Argumentum ad nauseam.

I see no reason not to mock this low life. He doesn't even reply to people. He just rants on and on. It's not even related to what other people have said. There's no interaction here and I don't see any reason to treat him any different to what he really is; a retard.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #101 on: November 05, 2010, 02:40:20 AM »
a retard.

now that just insults all the other retards. he's lower than that.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #102 on: November 05, 2010, 02:43:38 AM »
a retard.

now that just insults all the other retards. he's lower than that.

I called it first.

On an interesting note. I could be wrong, but I think I just hit a hundred posts made for this day. Man I must have been bored today.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #103 on: November 05, 2010, 02:46:22 AM »
If God showed up and said I'm your Creator, do this and do that, knowing your powerless over Him.
Could you do it?

No, because that would be enslavement.

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How would you feel? Would it scare you? Would you hide in the bushes?
no0, i would flipped him off. But the point is, there isn't any reason to believe; no evidence and they're just words on a piece of paper from thousands of years ago by stupid goat fu-- i mean goat herders.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #104 on: November 05, 2010, 02:51:22 AM »
lilbman, a piece of friendly advice: recognize that you're not talking to a congregation and choir that already believes as you do.  So far, your posts are littered with Scripture quotes and Applause Lights [ <---CLICKY.] geared for a Christian audience.  This is not such an audience.  We do not share the a priori assumptions that make a phrase like "the precious blood which He shed for you on Calvary's hill" a heartstring-tugger that prompts cries of "Amen!" from the crowd.

In a nutshell, you need to think outside the box[1] when you're on a site like this.  It is not sufficient to merely say "How much does Jesus love you?  'This much,' he said, and stretched out his arms and died for your sins."  You need to persuade us to agree with your view of "sin," and of other things, like the concept of substitutionary atonement by blood sacrifice, the moral principle that it would be virtuous for us to profit from the torture-sacrifice of someone we regard as innocent so that we can escape our own guilt (and we need to be shown why we should feel guilty about not believing in Yahweh in the first place).  Then we need to have good reason to think that any of the events on which your claims are based (Adam and Eve, Jesus dying and resurrecting, etc.) actually happened.

Let me provide you with an example:

"Have you accepted Prometheus as your personal Lord and Fire-Giver?  Why do you continue to reject Him, after he suffered being chained to a rock and having his entrails eaten out by vultures over and over and over again, for giving the Divine Fire to humanity?  He suffered on the Rock for you, to give you that fire-of-the-mind which is not only the source of warmth and light, but all good things of the human condition and of our hope for the future.  If you would only open your heart to Prometheus, repent of your darkened ignorance, He will come with His radiant fire to light your darkened soul and fill it with warmth."

Does this make you inclined to change your mind and worship Prometheus?  Why or why not?
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #105 on: November 05, 2010, 03:14:55 AM »
Read the book of John. Don't look for faults.
Read with an open mind and listen to Jesus. Apply what He says to your life. Learn what faith is and
why its important. Its the shortest of the Gospels and the quickest to read. Read it a couple of times.
Learn from it and plant His words in your heart. Try and understand what He is talking about the best you can. Determine for yourself if His words speak the truth.
We all did this and determined that the Bible is wrong.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #106 on: November 05, 2010, 03:20:59 AM »
For now, I've moved this thread to Testimonials.

However, lilbman, I will be back soon to talk you about one or two things. Namely paying attention to our rules and etiquette.


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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #107 on: November 05, 2010, 04:13:39 AM »
He gave me a job I didn't have to look for. The employer called me.

I can't go by this one.

The employer just called you because why? Jesus made him do it?

"Let me just call a random stranger and offer him a job."

The employer called my mother. Told me to call him because he wanted to offer me a job.

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And why did he call your mother?

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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #108 on: November 05, 2010, 04:26:31 AM »
Don't go your whole life waiting for someone to tell you.

Right, its not as if we have any shortage of people trying to tell us.

Find out for yourself.

We did, we found out that it was nonsense.

Jesus is real. Don't rely on what the world tells you.

The world tells me not to go and stand in the middle of a busy highway. Why should ignore its good advice?

Read the book of John. Don't look for faults.

Why? Because we'll find them? Because the Book of John and whole bible is riddled with errors, inconsistencies, contradictions and nonsense?

Read with an open mind and listen to Jesus. Apply what He says to your life. Learn what faith is and why its important.

Why don't you read the Koran with an open heart? You're blinding yourself to the truth of Allah!

Its the shortest of the Gospels and the quickest to read. Read it a couple of times.
Learn from it and plant His words in your heart. Try and understand what He is talking about the best you can. Determine for yourself if His words speak the truth.

We did, and determined that they do not.

Never mind this I want learn about how Jesus got you a new job.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #109 on: November 05, 2010, 05:01:15 AM »
With all due respect,
 God permitted those laws through Moses because their hearts were hard. They do not nor
have ever superseded Gods laws. Those are laws of men permitted by God not Gods' law.
I'll give you points for creativity.  Most of the time, we get 'that is the OT; Jesus did away with all that stuff' or 'it only applies to the Jews', but this is the first time I've seen it argued (by a Christian) that it's not part of divine law at all.

Still, there are plenty of very objectionable parts of the OT that claim to be the direct orders of God, complete with heavy punishments for violating them (typically, death by stoning).  You can't dismiss these as easily, nor can you say that Jesus did away with it, since the Bible says he came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill it (Matthew 5:17-19).  In fact, if you read what it says, anyone who violates even the most inconsequential of those laws will be punished.

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Jesus corrects this.
Ahh yes, Jesus' version of the law.  You've gotta love when he says you need to hate your parents, siblings, and own life to be his disciple (Luke 14:26), or when he says he comes to bring violence and set family members against one another (Matthew 10:34-36).

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So those under grace are not subject to penalty of the law.
Matthew 5:19 disagrees with you in no uncertain terms.

The only way you can gain understanding is if the Lord gives you understanding.
If your truly learning from Jesus, then He will give you an example in your live.
Then you will know what He is talking about.
This is just a condescending way of ignoring any points we make that you don't want to refute with logic, reason, or otherwise fair debate.  If we don't accept Jesus/God, then we're incapable of understanding, and if we can't understand, you automatically win.  Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

What I gather from this is: I would rather know and trust in Him than have to face what He's talking
about here. Whether literally or metaphorically.
Wait, you know him and trust him, and have the Jesus/God-given 'understanding' that we lack, yet you cannot tell us whether the passage is literal or not?  What gives?

I've answered your questions. I'm trying to help you but you refuse to listen.
Your more interested in debating to try and prove yourself right. What good
does that do. You possibly couldn't even begin to know what knowledge is
in the universe yet you mock me because I believe in a Creator. You can only
live up to 120 years of age and from your knowledge, you want to try and
convince me that there is no such thing as a Creator. You have this life. What
are you to do with it? Could you even make a difference apart from Gods will
if He so chooses to judge the world again? How many civilizations have been
wiped out with nothing left but rubble. What is left for the next generation?
So, you think you have it all figured out? Be cause God does not comply to
your terms? Who are you but His creation? Are you able to move the hand of God?
Wouldn't you rather want to move His heart? You can only see things from your
logic which is of an infant compared to God. Can you even begin to imagine the
exact specifications for life to exist on this planet and how it manages to stay
on course. You are limiting yourself when you decide to overrule GOD. Be honest
with yourself and quit pretending that God owes you anything.
This is all predicated on the assumption that a deity exists, and moreover, that it is the Judeo-Christian deity, rather than any of innumerable other possibilities.  You seem to forget the fact that atheists, by definition, lack belief in any such deity.  Until you come up with some evidence that it exists, and use that to convince us (turning us from atheist to theist), all your questions above are loaded statements.  They presuppose something not established (ie, that God exists) in order to answer them.

It's like if I asked you if you'd stopped beating your wife.  It carries the strong implication that you do beat your wife, which I'm sure you'd take offense at.  Likewise, we take offense when you consistently act as though we should accept your assertion that God exists as though it were self-evident.

I made plenty of wrong decisions in my life, no point in denying that. I'm mocking you because you believe porn addictions exist.
I see I'm not the only one who got a chuckle from that.  While I certainly don't think of substance abuse as a disease, but rather an unhealthy life choice, there is at least a physical dependency that can result (though I still maintain the individual bears responsibility).  On the other hand, things like 'addictions' to gambling, online games, the internet, porn, etc are just a way for people to try to deny responsibility.

Look at what man does with this knowledge. Your thought on wanting to know the universe are good
but your removing the Creator from it. You can only go so far. Religion will make you a slave to religion
but Jesus will free you from that. There's more than you could possibly ever understand. Seek to understand
Jesus first, then you will understand that He is worth more than all knowledge.
Sounds like you're high on Jesus.  In fact, you're making Jesus sound like a drug.  Once you've smoked some Jesus, you won't care about anything else.  Note that some Christians (like Catholics) extend the metaphor by eating and drinking the 'transubstantiated' remains of their zombie messiah.

Tell me, when you were drinking heavily, did you give alcohol priority over other things?  Relationships, work, etc?  Do you now give your relationship with Jesus priority over those same things?

Would you hide in the bushes?
Why not?  It worked for Adam and Eve, according to the Bible, and I haven't heard anything about God getting his X-ray vision fixed in the interim.

Never mind this I want learn about how Jesus got you a new job.
Never mind that, tell Jesus to get me a job, lilbman.  One of mine ended recently (seasonal), and my other job blows.  I could really use something cushy, with good pay and tenure, where I can sit on my ass and look at internet porn all day long (you know, like teaching).  It shouldn't be hard for your omnipotent creator, and if you can hook me up by the end of the week, I'll believe in your Jesus.  Just think of it as saving my soul!

On another note, there are three things you could do as a courtesy to your readers:

First is to not make multiple consecutive posts.  If you want to reply to four different people, you could reply to all of them in one post, rather than making four posts in a row.  You can easily do this by composing your replies in other tabs (or windows), and using cut-and-paste to concatenate them into a single reply.

Second is to actually use the full page width, rather than hitting ENTER after ten or fifteen words.  Look at the posts of other people, and then look at your posts.  It looks as though you're trying to make your text look like a narrow newspaper column or something, and all it does is makes it harder to read, as more scrolling is necessary.  I'm not sure if this posting style is because you think you need a newline after every x characters or what, but you don't.  The forum (or more accurately, each person's browser) will render the text with appropriate margins, if you're not forcing it to do otherwise.

The third thing is to use paragraph breaks, because when you have a big wall of text with no breaks, it is likewise harder to read.

Oh, I thought of a fourth thing: ask God to teach you the difference between "your" and "you're".
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #110 on: November 05, 2010, 05:28:50 AM »
lilbman, a piece of friendly advice.....

I know the truth. .....etc

You're simply not taking your responsibilities seriously. I know you are ignorant of how sad and uninformed your behaviour is, but I am not willing to allow that as an excuse. It's very awkward for some here to have to condescend to a mental termite like you.

You're ignorant. And, you are simultaneously unable to undersand how ignorant you are. It is causing you to be immoral in how you deal with dialogue with others, and that is very sad.

When staff try to help you talk like a big boy, just tell yourself you're being persecuted for bringing the truth to the unbelievers. The fantasy is probably way better than the real alternative. It's probably better tax-wise for the rest of the citizens in your community. You know what I mean.   
You believe evolution and there is no evidence for that. Where is the fossil record of a half man half ape. I've only ever heard about it in reading.

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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #111 on: November 05, 2010, 05:35:07 AM »
By "Read when an open mind" you really mean "If you don't come to the same conclusions as me, you must not have an open mind".

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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #112 on: November 05, 2010, 05:36:48 AM »
By "Read when an open mind" you really mean "If you don't come to the same conclusions as me, you must not have an open mind".

Nearly everyone means that when they say it (atheists and theists alike). It's human nature to think that you're right and other people are wrong
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #113 on: November 05, 2010, 05:38:40 AM »
I think lilbman needs a visit to the Emergency Room.
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #114 on: November 05, 2010, 05:39:13 AM »
I think lilbman needs a visit to the Emergency Room.

Same here. The mods will deal with him as they see fit
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Re: It's hard for atheists to understand God (split)
« Reply #115 on: November 05, 2010, 05:58:26 AM »
By "Read when an open mind" you really mean "If you don't come to the same conclusions as me, you must not have an open mind".

Nearly everyone means that when they say it (atheists and theists alike). It's human nature to think that you're right and other people are wrong

Which is why I generally avoid saying it unless the person actually says something like "I'll never change my mind no matter what evidence I see".