With all due respect,
God permitted those laws through Moses because their hearts were hard. They do not nor
have ever superseded Gods laws. Those are laws of men permitted by God not Gods' law.
I'll give you points for creativity. Most of the time, we get 'that is the OT; Jesus did away with all that stuff' or 'it only applies to the Jews', but this is the first time I've seen it argued (by a Christian) that it's not part of divine law at all.
Still, there are plenty of very objectionable parts of the OT that claim to be the direct orders of God, complete with heavy punishments for violating them (typically, death by stoning). You can't dismiss these as easily, nor can you say that Jesus did away with it, since the Bible says he came not to destroy the law, but to fulfill it (
Matthew 5:17-19). In fact, if you read what it says, anyone who violates even the most inconsequential of those laws will be punished.
Jesus corrects this.
Ahh yes, Jesus' version of the law. You've gotta love when he says you need to hate your parents, siblings, and own life to be his disciple (
Luke 14:26), or when he says he comes to bring violence and set family members against one another (
Matthew 10:34-36).
So those under grace are not subject to penalty of the law.
Matthew 5:19 disagrees with you in no uncertain terms.
The only way you can gain understanding is if the Lord gives you understanding.
If your truly learning from Jesus, then He will give you an example in your live.
Then you will know what He is talking about.
This is just a condescending way of ignoring any points we make that you don't want to refute with logic, reason, or otherwise fair debate. If we don't accept Jesus/God, then we're incapable of understanding, and if we can't understand, you automatically win. Sorry, but it doesn't work that way.
What I gather from this is: I would rather know and trust in Him than have to face what He's talking
about here. Whether literally or metaphorically.
Wait, you know him and trust him, and have the Jesus/God-given 'understanding' that we lack, yet you cannot tell us whether the passage is literal or not? What gives?
I've answered your questions. I'm trying to help you but you refuse to listen.
Your more interested in debating to try and prove yourself right. What good
does that do. You possibly couldn't even begin to know what knowledge is
in the universe yet you mock me because I believe in a Creator. You can only
live up to 120 years of age and from your knowledge, you want to try and
convince me that there is no such thing as a Creator. You have this life. What
are you to do with it? Could you even make a difference apart from Gods will
if He so chooses to judge the world again? How many civilizations have been
wiped out with nothing left but rubble. What is left for the next generation?
So, you think you have it all figured out? Be cause God does not comply to
your terms? Who are you but His creation? Are you able to move the hand of God?
Wouldn't you rather want to move His heart? You can only see things from your
logic which is of an infant compared to God. Can you even begin to imagine the
exact specifications for life to exist on this planet and how it manages to stay
on course. You are limiting yourself when you decide to overrule GOD. Be honest
with yourself and quit pretending that God owes you anything.
This is all predicated on the assumption that a deity exists, and moreover, that it is the Judeo-Christian deity, rather than any of innumerable other possibilities. You seem to forget the fact that atheists, by definition, lack belief in any such deity. Until you come up with some evidence that it exists, and use that to convince us (turning us from atheist to theist), all your questions above are loaded statements. They presuppose something not established (ie, that God exists) in order to answer them.
It's like if I asked you if you'd stopped beating your wife. It carries the strong implication that you
do beat your wife, which I'm sure you'd take offense at. Likewise, we take offense when you consistently act as though we should accept your assertion that God exists as though it were self-evident.
I made plenty of wrong decisions in my life, no point in denying that. I'm mocking you because you believe porn addictions exist.
I see I'm not the only one who got a chuckle from that. While I certainly don't think of substance abuse as a disease, but rather an unhealthy life choice, there is at least a physical dependency that can result (though I still maintain the individual bears responsibility). On the other hand, things like 'addictions' to gambling, online games, the internet, porn, etc are just a way for people to try to deny responsibility.
Look at what man does with this knowledge. Your thought on wanting to know the universe are good
but your removing the Creator from it. You can only go so far. Religion will make you a slave to religion
but Jesus will free you from that. There's more than you could possibly ever understand. Seek to understand
Jesus first, then you will understand that He is worth more than all knowledge.
Sounds like you're high on Jesus. In fact, you're making Jesus sound like a drug. Once you've smoked some Jesus, you won't care about anything else. Note that some Christians (like Catholics) extend the metaphor by eating and drinking the 'transubstantiated' remains of their zombie messiah.
Tell me, when you were drinking heavily, did you give alcohol priority over other things? Relationships, work, etc? Do you now give your relationship with Jesus priority over those same things?
Would you hide in the bushes?
Why not? It worked for Adam and Eve, according to the Bible, and I haven't heard anything about God getting his X-ray vision fixed in the interim.
Never mind this I want learn about how Jesus got you a new job.
Never mind that, tell Jesus to get me a job, lilbman. One of mine ended recently (seasonal), and my other job blows. I could really use something cushy, with good pay and tenure, where I can sit on my ass and look at internet porn all day long (you know, like teaching). It shouldn't be hard for your omnipotent creator, and if you can hook me up by the end of the week, I'll believe in your Jesus. Just think of it as saving my soul!
On another note, there are three things you could do as a courtesy to your readers:
First is to not make multiple consecutive posts. If you want to reply to four different people, you could reply to all of them in one post, rather than making four posts in a row. You can easily do this by composing your replies in other tabs (or windows), and using cut-and-paste to concatenate them into a single reply.
Second is to actually use the full page width, rather than hitting ENTER after ten or fifteen words. Look at the posts of other people, and then look at your posts. It looks as though you're trying to make your text look like a narrow newspaper column or something, and all it does is makes it harder to read, as more scrolling is necessary. I'm not sure if this posting style is because you think you need a newline after every x characters or what, but you don't. The forum (or more accurately, each person's browser) will render the text with appropriate margins, if you're not forcing it to do otherwise.
The third thing is to use paragraph breaks, because when you have a big wall of text with no breaks, it is likewise harder to read.
Oh, I thought of a fourth thing: ask God to teach you the difference between "your" and "you're".
