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Offline Historicity

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Re: Conditions for a miracle...
« Reply #58 on: November 11, 2011, 11:51:10 PM »
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Actually, if you look at historical writings from the period, there is far more evidence that Jesus existed than there is that Alexander the Great ever lived at all.

That's a lie.

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Re: Conditions for a miracle...
« Reply #59 on: November 11, 2011, 11:53:35 PM »
There isn't only miracles to look at.  There are hundreds of prophesies that have come to pass, and continue to come to pass, especially in the last 60 years!!

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Re: Conditions for a miracle...
« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2011, 09:03:17 AM »
Actually it is true, prophecies have been fufilled.... however they are all the same ones that are fuffilled every generation since the mammal known as homo sapiens has entered into existence... in fact some have been around even longer:

There are storms.
There are earthquakes.
There are Volcanic Eruptions.
There are Wars.
There are Rumors of Wars.
"This new generation just doesn't respect thier elders like WE used to..."
"The World is going to hell in a handbasket!"
"Death approaches, The end of the World is Nigh!"
"The Sky is Falling!"


Same ones that have been around every generation since written history began.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2011, 09:05:22 AM by TruthSeeker »

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Re: Conditions for a miracle...
« Reply #61 on: November 13, 2011, 06:37:18 PM »
Yup!  Prophesies that can be 'fulfilled' over and over again aren't actually prophesies.  They're TOO VAGUE to be predicting anything.

Give specific names, dates, places, actions, or you're just spewing 'woo' at us.

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Re: Conditions for a miracle...
« Reply #62 on: November 13, 2011, 11:08:47 PM »
Ah, I forgot to mention famines that have been aound since Genesis as well...

I predict your heart will beat.
I predict you will breathe.

Did you do any of those thigs after I typed this? Yup, I'm a prophet that can predict the future!

I had this discussion with some JWs, predicting Natural Cycles is meaningless, with our technology you just hear about it more. Well.. with 7 Billion people, there are also a lot more idiots that there were when the world population was only 1 Billion. However, "It happens All the time," means it can be dismissed as a prophecy.

I predict sometime in the future, a hurricane will form pass thru the Gulf of Mexico and hit the US coast!

Yup, us non Christians can predict the future too. If a hurricane hits the US cast from the Gulf of Mexico, pay me your entire life savings. If one doesn't hit the US coast, well... "It just hasn't been fufilled yet." See? I've got this game down pat.

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Re: Conditions for a miracle...
« Reply #63 on: November 14, 2011, 05:07:12 AM »
Strange case of thread resurrection. Historicity is talking to ghosts.
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Re: Conditions for a miracle...
« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2011, 06:20:51 AM »
This is nothing but hearsay.  Names and addresses please.  Who actually witnessed it AND wrote about it independently anywhere but in the fairy story.

First you give me the names and addresses of the monkeys that turned into humans.

George W. Bush, Dallas, Texas.

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Re: Conditions for a miracle...
« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2011, 06:29:18 AM »
Actually, God HAS healed amputees - the evidence is there at Lourdes, in the thousands of cast off wheelchairs and crutches, no longer needed.
The things God won't heal were pointed out by Mark Twain. All those crutches, yet not a single glass eye or toupee. (Or set of dentures, for that matter.)

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Re: Conditions for a miracle...
« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2011, 10:08:10 AM »
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