Yeah. If airplanes were created, logically they must have had one inventor. The Wright Brothers. Oops. But so what? You're avoiding the point. Why would the substitutions I made not be equally valid if stated by someone who had "direct experience" of Allah, Brahman, or Osiris, which would then "prove" that their One True God is the One True God as well as your revelation "proves" that yours is? Because there are people out there who say with equal conviction that they have had a Revelation of the Divinetm which turns out to be different from yours.
That isn't the point. Your reading comprehension is at a low here. If, there is only one God, then all of the different faces of God we see on this planet as merely facets of that one Creator, who has chosen to manifest Himself in various ways to various people. All experiences of God could be technically valid; whether they are divinely inspired or not is the true question.
"Verily, verily, I say unto you" eh? Say, can you walk on water or anything?
Is this sarcasm? Are you belittling me here?
Except that you didn't have to "seek God" or be "sincere" or anything like everybody else. The god you describe could, if it existed, do for everyone else what it did for you. It didn't, and according to the other things you've said, it won't. Out of 7 billion people currently living on Earth, you are the Chosen One. So, why you? Did your god hold a lottery or something?
Again, your reading comprehension leaves much to be desired. If you had bothered to read my post instead of just respond off the cuff, or if you had the intelligence to comprehend all of it at the same time, you would clearly see that I mentioned more than once that God gives visions to unbelievers all the time. There is nothing particularly unique or special about that.
Heh, you're starting to talk like the KJV. Cult-leader status us sure to follow, lol. Are you the next Joseph Smith, perhaps?
lol, is this more sarcasm? lol are you trying to belittle me again lol? lol?
Mind-reading skills: you don't have them. What evidence do you have that I am insular in my views? I mean, apart from the fact that I'm not insular in your views? Project much?
How about the fact that your mind apparently passes over in a gray fugue of incomprehension things clearly stated and defined previously making any forward progress unlikely. I mean so far this post has been cheap insults and repetitions and illiteracy.
Whaddaya mean "both?" When it comes to the issue of religion/spiritual belief, there are thousands of sides. I am the one that's been arguing for considering the various "sides" (i.e., differing claims of Divine Revelation and mystical experience) equally. You want us to privilege yours and yours alone with credulous, evidence-free acceptance. You want us to "sincerely" seek your god and yours alone. You cannot explain why we should not seek the Goddess of the Wiccans (and each one of the other deities people have believed in) with equal sincerity.
Since you like going over things a million times, we can go over it again. It is a very simple issue. Either the Universe was created or it wasn't. Either there is One God or there are no Gods. Either there is a Creator who creates nihilistic ungrateful intellectually challenged children, or there isn't. How does something come from nothing? You're lost in the morass of human beliefs systems and are unable to delineate what the true issues are.
Yes, and most of the abundant testimony from all those faiths and practices contradicts yours. A lot of it says that Allah alone is God, he has no Son, and Allah is his prophet. A lot of it says that Brahman manifests in myriad forms (Krishna, Parvati, Shiva, Kali, etc., etc.). A lot of it backs up the teachings of the Buddha, and goes on to talk about Bardo realms and Bodhisattvas, etc., etc.. Then there are the revelations of the shamans, going back tens of thousands of years to the caves at Lascaux at least, telling of an alternate realm populated with therianthropic nature-spirits. I could go on. BTW, thus far I have demonstrated more knowledge of the various "sides" and the abundant testimony from people all over the world from different faiths and practices than you have. Likewise for my fellow commentators here. And you want to call us biased and insular in our beliefs?
Yes, you'e right about one thing, you *could* go on. Again, reading comprehension please. I will repeat. There is One Creator. Use any name you like. He prefers Father.
Nope. Just a pattern of behavior consistent with the attributes claimed for it. So, if the Creator is said to be both loving and omnipotent (especially if the "loving" attribute is supposed to be perfect and unconditional), then we should expect to see omnipotence being wielded in a loving way. If I were to claim that Superman was my roommate, that claim would have effects if it were true. There would be news footage of Superman saving people, shrugging off bullets when criminals shot at him, etc., because "Superman" has, in addition to his powers, the attribute of wanting to use them to save people. In the same way, an omnipotent, omnipresent Deity with a pattern of behavior guided by some principle (unconditional love, a thirst for domination, enjoyment of humans as tasty snacks, whatever) would be too big and important to miss. We would not find ourselves in a Cosmos that looks and behaves exactly the way it would if such an entity did not exist. You tell us that your god is unconditionally loving, but you can't point to a pattern of behavior on his part that manifests this, because he doesn't exhibit any behavior at all.
God loves everyone, especially the lost sheep that turn away. Human testimony about God is not sufficient, especially for someone who is closed-minded and bitter against God, and thus under the Satanic influence. I told you exactly how to find out for yourself who God is. God proves Himself, no human intervention required. Since you are too afraid to face God, you are prone to many delusions about Him.
So which is it then? Either God must reveal itself to us (i.e., God is the active agent, as you allege in your own case), or we can "seek out God and find him" ourselves, thus we are the active agents and God's self-revelation is a triggered response. And, since "millions" of people every day find all sorts of different gods when they go a-seeking, we're back to the issue you have yet to respond to: why should we trust your inner revelation more than anyone else's?
Sigh. Reading comprehension please. I said you could find out for yourself. You don't have to take my word for it. God acts as He acts. For some, He may come to them. For others, they are drawn in. It's all according to the whims of the great magnet.
