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artificial womb
« on: April 26, 2017, 03:26:04 PM »
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/04/25/525044286/scientists-create-artificial-womb-that-could-help-prematurely-born-babies

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So far the device has only been tested on fetal lambs. A study published Tuesday involving eight animals found the device appears effective at enabling very premature fetuses to develop normally for about a month.

"We've been extremely successful in replacing the conditions in the womb in our lamb model," says Alan Flake, a fetal surgeon at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia who led the study published in the journal Nature Communications.

"They've had normal growth. They've had normal lung maturation. They've had normal brain maturation. They've had normal development in every way that we can measure it," Flake says.

Flake says the group hopes to test the device on very premature human babies within three to five years.
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« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2017, 06:20:41 PM »
Silence of the Lambs.
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Re: artificial womb
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2017, 07:05:40 PM »
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Re: artificial womb
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 07:32:52 PM »
Oddly enough, I've been hearing a lot about the "Handmaid's Tale" on NPR lately.
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Re: artificial womb
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 07:49:58 PM »
I think that is pertinent.  If we have an artificial womb, would the religious accept children from it?   Or would they have to be from a human womb to qualify as "human"? 

I read "The Handmaid's Tale" what feels like an age ago.  Didn't think much of the writing, though the ideas are interesting.  I think another pertinent book is Brave New World https://www.huxley.net/bnw/one.html 
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Re: artificial womb
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2017, 08:13:40 PM »
I think that is pertinent.  If we have an artificial womb, would the religious accept children from it?   Or would they have to be from a human womb to qualify as "human"? 

I read "The Handmaid's Tale" what feels like an age ago.  Didn't think much of the writing, though the ideas are interesting.  I think another pertinent book is Brave New World https://www.huxley.net/bnw/one.html

To be honest, and I may be way off the mark here, I don't think the vast majority of religious people would reject this. Some would but I don't think there will be much opposition to this new technology. I have never read "The Handmaid's Tale" I lived with a young women a couple decades ago who told me about it. I did read "Brave New World" once in my teen years. I can't remember much about it now.

I might read them both here in the next few weeks.

This new technology, tho, is pretty amazing to think about.
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I first read about this earlier this morning when my vegan cousin posted a rant on facebook about animal testing and the fact that the artificially grown lambs were euthanized to study organ development, etc. Honestly, I think she would be more OK with the late-term abortion of a human fetus than with these lambs not being allowed to be born and go on to live free and happy lives.

As far as how religious people would view it, I expect it would be akin to in-vitro...Many still reject that as not being a natural conception (yet still want to protect every one of the extra embryos created), and I would imagine a lot would reject this as well, but others, especially those who had lost previous babies who were born before viability would manage to look beyond the ethical questions.

It is pretty fascinating technology which, if perfected, could give a lot of micro-preemies born with a lot of medical issues to go on to live fuller lives. The original post I saw was not a complete article, and this fills in a lot of my questions as well as raising a lot of others such as how this would impact abortion politics.