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See the section about Illness - Larry's story, on the site below. An ad for this website just appeared on television. If God can make Larry see again, why won't god heal amputees?

Larry Greene / Illness

After years of construction work, Larry Greene began experiencing heart problems. Doctors quickly prescribed medicine to control his arrhythmia. The drug worked, but unknown to Larry, it was also damaging his eyes. Years later with his vision quickly deteriorating he met with doctors and specialists who discovered the problem. Key optical nerves were failing and destroyed. In a few months he was legally blind with no hope for a cure. Depression followed.


http://nothingstoohardforgod.org/illness/
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Re: For those who ask us why we wonder "Why Won't God Heal Amputees?"
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2009, 12:54:55 PM »
See the section about Illness - Larry's story, on the site below. An ad for this website just appeared on television. If God can make Larry see again, why won't god heal amputees?

Larry Greene / Illness

After years of construction work, Larry Greene began experiencing heart problems. Doctors quickly prescribed medicine to control his arrhythmia. The drug worked, but unknown to Larry, it was also damaging his eyes. Years later with his vision quickly deteriorating he met with doctors and specialists who discovered the problem. Key optical nerves were failing and destroyed. In a few months he was legally blind with no hope for a cure. Depression followed.


http://nothingstoohardforgod.org/illness/

Larry must be one of those True Christians we keep hearing about.
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Re: For those who ask us why we wonder "Why Won't God Heal Amputees?"
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2014, 05:38:05 PM »
I know why God hasn't healed amputees...think about it. When God made this world, it was perfect and nothing compared to what we live in today. He created everything in the whole earth and it was amazing, until Satan came along and tempted Adam&Eve which led to the Fall of Man and that's why depression, battling cancer&diseases, unbelief, car accidents, suicide, loneliness, and etc exist today...because we made a mess out of this world and one day Jesus is coming back to fix it up, cleanse us of our sins, and it's going to be a good day let me tell you that...because this world is broken and desperately needs help which is way too big for us; puny humans to fix (you can't deny that.) So to answer the question for this whole website, It's not God's fault. Since one day he's going to come back and take away all our sins or we will get the chance to see him in heaven and we won't be worrying about stuff like that.that amputees exist today...it's merely OUR FAULT since we made a mess out of our sin that only Jesus can forgive and I know that many people on this website don't believe in Christ which i don't get. I don't get how you can live your lifes in fear and doubt and not having someone to always turn to that will love you so much for just who you are and it doesn't matter to him that you don't bring a lot to the table, because even though you don't believe he still loves you. You can sit there behind a computer screen or device and mock me and tell me I'm a "silly Christian," and that I'm wrong about Jesus existing. But I know one thing...he does exist no matter what everyone says. He does. And soon you'll meet him and I hope you get to know him, since I'll be praying for you.

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Re: For those who ask us why we wonder "Why Won't God Heal Amputees?"
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2014, 05:50:10 PM »
Welcome to WWGHA, Ellie.

You put some effort into your post, although nobody has posted in it for 5 years. Normally, I would ask you to start your own new thread but this is your first post and the question is the most basic question of the site.

As I understand it, you suggest that because we are bad there are amputees whom God will not heal.

However, Jesus was there well after Creation, yet he did heal people. He healed the deaf, the blind, the lame, those who were suffering from demonic possession, but he never healed an amputee.

Today, people claim that a godly miracle cured them of something, but an amputee has never claimed this.

So we have a world in which God heals many afflictions but cannot cause a lost arm to re-grow. God can make a universe and all life on it, He made insects, crabs, and lizards who can all re-grow limbs. But, for us, made in His Image... well, He seems to do nothing. He does not help.

So it cannot be just "sin" can it?

Why do you think that God hates amputees and refuses to help them?

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Re: For those who ask us why we wonder "Why Won't God Heal Amputees?"
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2014, 10:07:13 AM »
Oh god, Ellie, careful with your replies; the atheists here bite and actually use logic :)
"God is just and fair"
*God kills 2.5 million of people he KNEW would turn out like this in the flood*
*Humanity turns bad again, when God knew it would*
We should feel guilty for this.

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Re: For those who ask us why we wonder "Why Won't God Heal Amputees?"
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2014, 12:32:22 PM »
...because we made a mess out of this world and one day Jesus is coming back to fix it up, cleanse us of our sins, and it's going to be a good day let me tell you that...

Ah.  Apparently you missed the part in Revelation that states that your "good day" will involve a frightful amount of death and destruction -- So much so, in fact, that it's going to make this "broken" world look positively heavenly.

Good thing that said "good day" is not going to happen.  You're new here, so you probably haven't heard the story of how I and My cadre of friends and supporters won the Apocalypse back in April 2001.  That's right; it's already come and gone, and your side lost.  To make a long story short, we set up a decoy and trapped Biblegod's army in a dead-end valley, then arrested the ringleaders and shipped them off to Proxima Centauri to stand trial on charges of attempted geocide.  I believe the preliminary hearing is coming up this fall, inasmuch as the artificial city orbiting Proxima Centauri -has- seasons such as fall.

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So to answer the question for this whole website, It's not God's fault.

Bullshit.  The one who has all the power automatically has all the responsibility.

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I don't get how you can live your lifes in fear and doubt and not having someone to always turn to that will love you so much for just who you are ...

Well, I have very little fear and even less doubt.  I also have friends who love Me for who I am.  I don't need your god for anything at all.

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Not going to happen, but in the meantime I'll sacrifice a charcoal-broiled hamburger and a mug of strong beer to Allfather Oðinn on your behalf.  Skál!
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Re: For those who ask us why we wonder "Why Won't God Heal Amputees?"
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2014, 01:14:53 AM »
.... and desperately needs help which is way too big for us; puny humans to fix (you can't deny that.)

I can actually. If we all suicided, then the world would get better, rapidly. The problem is that we lack the vision and determination to fix the world, due to religious people telling us that suicide is bad.
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Re: For those who ask us why we wonder "Why Won't God Heal Amputees?"
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 02:38:16 PM »
I can actually. If we all suicided, then the world would get better, rapidly.

or perhaps if we all committed suicide, hara-kiri, seppuku etc, etc...

but that's a rather misanthropic worldview.  and with the advent of anthropological climate change, a worldview that is becoming more and more prevalent.

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Re: For those who ask us why we wonder "Why Won't God Heal Amputees?"
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2014, 11:29:19 AM »
I know why God hasn't healed amputees...think about it. When God made this world, it was perfect and nothing compared to what we live in today. He created everything in the whole earth and it was amazing
With all due respect, repeating Christian dogma is not very useful.  Or believable.

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until Satan came along and tempted Adam&Eve which led to the Fall of Man and that's why depression, battling cancer&diseases, unbelief, car accidents, suicide, loneliness, and etc exist today...
And this is why it isn't believable.  "Everything was perfect until humans screwed up, and then everything went to pot".

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because we made a mess out of this world and one day Jesus is coming back to fix it up, cleanse us of our sins, and it's going to be a good day let me tell you that...
So...why wait so long to fix things?  Why the indeterminate timeframe?  Why the obvious lack of work being done?

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because this world is broken and desperately needs help which is way too big for us; puny humans to fix (you can't deny that.)
Saying that it's "way too big for us to fix" is nothing but an excuse to avoid trying so you can sit around on your butt and wait for your god to come and make everything better.

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So to answer the question for this whole website, It's not God's fault.
If things are as you say, it most certainly is his fault.  Whether or not you hold him responsible for the Eden debacle, the fact remains that he can and should have been working to fix it all along.  Instead, we get a passion play where he sacrifices himself to himself to 'forgive' us (thousands of years after the fact), then he twiddles his thumbs for thousands more years.

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Since one day he's going to come back and take away all our sins or we will get the chance to see him in heaven and we won't be worrying about stuff like that.that amputees exist today...it's merely OUR FAULT since we made a mess out of our sin that only Jesus can forgive and I know that many people on this website don't believe in Christ which i don't get.
Of course you don't get it.  You've got this promise that everything will be better...eventually.  So why should you care if people have to live their lives as cripples?  Why should you care about the people for whom starvation is a dire threat?  You have your best buddy Jesusgod who you love, and who you're sure loves you as much as you love him.

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I don't get how you can live your lifes in fear and doubt and not having someone to always turn to that will love you so much for just who you are and it doesn't matter to him that you don't bring a lot to the table, because even though you don't believe he still loves you.
I don't live my life in fear or doubt.  I just simply don't bother to rely on a being that either doesn't exist, or is seemingly content to let the problems with the world continue indefinitely.

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You can sit there behind a computer screen or device and mock me and tell me I'm a "silly Christian," and that I'm wrong about Jesus existing. But I know one thing...he does exist no matter what everyone says. He does. And soon you'll meet him and I hope you get to know him, since I'll be praying for you.
Rather than pray that atheists start to worship Jesusgod, why don't you get off your butt and actually work to help people who truly need it?  And I don't mean by praying for them.  Prayer is simply a way of saying, "I can't do anything to help, but I'll be thinking about you".