Skeptic..... my example wasn't really about 1 person surviving a plane crash out of 300....my example was a God that intervened at command(or plea) while ignoring others who plea(or command) at a time of dire need. The God works in mysterious ways cop out falls short when people who plead(or command) at a time of dire need are ignored,for a believer I would imagine that would be horrifying.
I can imagine it would feel horrifying. Maybe God saves certain people because they are part of His plan, and have to do a special task in life. I can not know for sure, but that is certainly not an unreasonable thought.
Well, er.... yes, people might be saved or whatever as they are part of his plan. The thing then becomes a discussion of why bother praying? Let's say god knows that David is going to horribly injured in a car crash but it is part of his plan that David is to survive, what is the point of his family praying that he survives - as it is part of god's plan and his [plan can't change?
Then again, if John is part of the same car crash but god has other plans for him, that his family praying for him is also worthless as god will do what he planned.
So, you are going to have to come up with some sort of defence of prayer altogether, Skep. You see in the Gospels we have Jesus promising that what a person prays for he will get and yet at the same time, we are told god is unchanging - meaning that whatever he has already decided in what will happen - so prayers for things will never have any effect as he can't change his mind about anything. However -
If we have the position that prayer can't work because god has already decided what he will do in each situation, we have another problem. Indeed, there are two possibilities I can think of - add other if you like Skep. They are
1. The unchanging god has decided in advance what will happen to everyone (part of his plan) so praying will never change anything in our world.
2. Since there is not a shred of evidence of a god, the fact that prayer never produces anything (except coincidences) seems to add weight to the idea that there really isn't a god.
Care to pick one, Skep?