Jdawg, I'm going to have to ask that you start limiting your questions to... I don't know, maybe 5!
Sorry. I tend to run my
keyboard off. Just ask Nam.
This is your introductory post, AshleyNC30. You have every right to just push questions off; I'm just trying to get more clarity into what it is you believe and what-have you, and if you don't want to get into a lot of that here in an introduction you don't have to. I do pose some of those questions to get you to think about the things that you're saying, but if you don't want to answer them in this thread that's fine. Just assume that my questions are 'food for thought' and you don't really need to get into them here. They may or may not come up again throughout conversations in the general forum areas.
I'm going to leave the whole sleep paralysis thing alone, because even if I were to successfully convince you that what I experienced was NOT sleep paralysis, you would just find something else to bring up that it could have been.
Right, and one of those somethings elses could be exactly what you're describing
. I don't believe it is, mind you (please understand that I do believe that you had the experiences that you had, but I am not accepting your explanation for those experiences). But it could be.
I am aware that it could have been some intense mental issue in my brain that lasted for several hours (and days after).
Or, the sleep paralysis event last for a few minutes, and that lasting effect of several hours, days, and weeks afterwards was the result of self-reinforcement of a story you've been telling yourself - namely, that the son of god
reached out to you
. I am also guessing that, while reiterating that story to yourself, you neglected to think of the many, many, many, many, many, many, many other people in the world who were not
being reached out to by the son of god
I'm not saying that's the explanation, AshleyNC30, but it's a possibility that explains the available evidence - and note that the set of available evidence is not only your
experiences but the experiences of every other sentient entity we can talk to
, and that within that set includes other people describing a similar experience to yours but attributing the causal agents as something either vastly different or in direct contrast to the causal agent(s) you're proposing.
However, (and I know this will surprise you) but that actually seems LESS likely to me, than it just being God and Jesus as I believe it was.
As you are describing this as something that causes you to believe that god and Jesus exist, it is not surprising. I just don't understand why that's the case is all.
I think that people who know me well will have more trust in my deductive reasoning ability through my proven intelligence in the past. This may help them believe that my experience DID happen the way that I am saying it did. They would of course have to make their own assumptions about what it means and it would not be enough to make a believer out of a non-believer.
You realize that I'm
not questioning your experiences, right? I'm questioning what you attribute as the cause
of those experiences.
Can you tell me the moment you first remember hearing from anyone that there is a God (I mean the Christian version of a God)? I would assume that this would be a hard thing for most people to recall since it would happen when they are very young, and possibly subtly. Once you hear about God from someone, you make a choice to agree that he exists or not.
Pretty sure I was being informed about this god fellow since before I could rationally think. I was raised Catholic. I cannot at all remember when I heard about god.
If I were 20 years old, how meaningful do you think my choice would be in regards to the question "do you believe that god exists?"
If I were 5 years old, how meaningful do you think my choice would be in regards to the question "do you believe that god exists?"
If I were 1 years old, how meaningful do you think my choice would be in regards to the question "do you believe that god exists?"
Do you think I would have been equipped to make a choice based on any information at 1 years old?
How much thought do you think I, as a 5 year old child, put into a question as abstract as "do you believe that god exists?"
If I were 20 years old, believing that god exists
, how likely am I to question the validity of that belief that I've held onto but scarcely critically
thought about for pretty much the entirety of my cognitive life?
I agree that many people out there choose to believe that he doesn't exist. I don't know why God wants us to make the choice. I could offer my own personal theories that are not grounded in any evidence or scripture, but those theories are likely to change anyways, so I won't bother.
Ok but I think you really ought to seriously think about precisely what choice god is wanting us to make. I want you to seriously think about the making the choice to believe that Bob Smith, the Prince of Space who occasionally shoots beams of light that we call The Northern Lights, exists. Think about how you would go about choosing
to actually believe
that Bob Smith, the Prince of Space, exists.
I get the idea that you have a specific post in mind and are dancing around it. I will be glad to update my posts if you just tell me which you are curious about.http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php/topic,27957.msg656097.html#msg656097