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Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« on: February 24, 2010, 10:16:55 PM »
I have already posted the following to another thread Guess you can't say God has NEVER healed an amputee but I it is buried on page 2, and I think this claim should be brought to the attention of as many members as possible.

This site is about CAROLE MILLER McCLEERY-GREENE. (http://www.healingsandmiracles.org/physicians.htm) She and her daffy husband travel around in a motor home, so at least they are not the type who need palatial churches. I suppose they are itinerant preachers. The first doctor she lists is as follows:

Dr. James F. Coy, M.D.
Sunstate Preventive Medicine Institute

310 Nesbit Street
PO Box 511315
Punta Gorda, FL 33951-1315
(941) 575-8080   

Dr. James F. Coy M.D. is now the physician in complete authority over all medical decisions regarding the creative miracle of completion of Carole's left leg.

http://www.naturalsolutionsmd.net/

When you llok at that URL there is nothing about creative miracles for her leg.

The second doctor she lists:

Dr. Kenneth Levy M.D.
Advanced Orthopedics Center
1641 Tamiami Trail, Suite 1
Port Charlotte, FL 33948
(941) 629-6262
Orthopedic Specialist since 1986, Dr. Levy amputated Carole's left leg below the kneecap in 1995. In the year 2000, Dr. Levy documented that her amputated left leg is growing back and is a creative miracle from God. There is no other explanation! (Dr. Levy is now retired and no longer involved in Carole's case.) 
http://www.advancedorthopediccenter.com/
Clicking on their site shows no support for what she writes.

The final doctor is:

Dr. David S. Goris, CPO
Sonlife Prosthetics and Orthotics, Inc.
6111 Deltona Blvd.
Spring Hill, FL 34609
(352) 596-2257   
Dr. Goris is the President of Sonlife with extensive experience in both Prosthetics and Orthotics. He received his bachelors degree from Calvin College in 1976 and went on to receive his degree in Prosthetics and Orthotics from Northwestern University in 1980. He is certified by the American Board for Certification and meets their requirements for continuing education on a yearly basis. Some of his most recent studies include custom prosthetic restoration and implementation of Computer Aided Design and Manufacturing (CAD/CAM) technology. Dr. Goris also certifies that Carole's regenerating leg is a creative miracle from God.
http://sonlifeprosthetics.com/
Clicking on that URL leads one to Sonlife, Prosthetics and Orthotics, Inc.

The listing for Dr. Goris (above) shows:

David S. Goris, CPO, LPO is the President of Sonlife Prosthetics and Orthotics with extensive experience in both Prosthetics and Orthotics.  He is Florida state licensed and certified by the American Board of Prosthetics & Orthotics.  Since 1985, he has been practicing In Hernando, Pasco, Citrus, and Sumter counties.  He has served as Chairman of the Board and Chairman of the Continuing Education Committee to the state of Florida.

The contact information for Sonlife is:

Sonlife Prosthetics and Orthotics, INC.
6111 Deltona BLVD
Spring Hill, FL 34606-101

(800) 562-4133 or
(352)596-2257
Email :info@sonlifeprosthetics.com

None of her doctors mention this amputee healing she claims. If someone has the time he or she could e-mail Sonlife. Of course they will claim medical confidentiality, but maybe just ask if they have ever seen the regeneration of a limb. However she certainly is brazen to list doctors and contact numbers in her claim.

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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2010, 10:19:39 PM »
Remember kiddos, fake legs don't count!
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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2010, 05:20:58 AM »
And we don't accept  links like http:\\healingsandmiracles.com , we need a valid, neutral link.

Edit: Ok, now why isn't this making big news if it were true?  :shrug
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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2010, 07:19:05 AM »
And we don't accept  links like http:\\healingsandmiracles.com , we need a valid, neutral link.

Edit: Ok, now why isn't this making big news if it were true?  :shrug

For the same reason why Bill Wiese's story didn't bring mass converts when he "got back from hell".
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2010, 01:25:22 PM »
indeed, if this were true, one would think that Christians would proclaim it far and wide.  And they don't. 

Ah, more liars for Christ and attention whores at the same time. Wheeee
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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2010, 01:54:49 PM »
A lot of amputees have some bone overgrowth at the end of the stump. Its considered a problem in prosthetics because the bone is usually misshapen and causes pain. The leg isn't growing back, however, it is just the stump's natural stem cells overgrowing like a benign tumour. The bone intrudes into the stump soft tissue, although sometimes bone can grow through the stump in the direction the limb used to be. This is not a limb growing back, however, and has nothing whatsoever to do with God.

Abstract here about the problem: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14566159
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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2010, 02:14:46 PM »
Regardless of the regenerated leg claim, that woman has had her share of medical issues.  I wouldn't wish her medical history on anyone.
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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2010, 02:48:26 PM »
Regardless of the regenerated leg claim, that woman has had her share of medical issues.  I wouldn't wish her medical history on anyone.

And to think by all that she believes it means god loves her!
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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2010, 04:15:11 PM »
Hey, don't be mean! God DOES heal amputees. Look at the sea stars, lizards (tails), and many other animals... But sadly for humans, it seems that god loves animals more than them. Poor christians...  ;D

Why oh god, why?!?!  :?  :shrug
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« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2010, 04:25:19 PM »
Hey, don't be mean! God DOES heal amputees. Look at the sea stars, lizards (tails), and many other animals... But sadly for humans, it seems that god loves animals more than them. Poor christians...  ;D

Why oh god, why?!?!  :?  :shrug

well, you know humans *were* an afterthought, and God couldnt' even remember how he built them to the point of thinking that Adam could mate with platypuses and sperm whales and puffer fishes, and cockroaches and grizzly bears and cane toads etc until it dawned on him to make a woman. 
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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2010, 05:08:52 PM »
Completely OT but did god make ANY females of a species at the beginning? Or were all females an afterthought? Was it just a big Gay Zoo Boys in the Garden Party? Since nothing was supposed to ever die in Eden, you would not need any actual reproduction. So I guess you could just go with one sex at first. Leaving out the whole Adam's "loneliness and he needed a helpmeet" stuff. 

But did god just make all neuter critters at first and then add the naughty bits for both sexes later, after the Fall? If so, why are there living things that are hermaphroditic? Why isn't everything like that, since it seems pretty efficient? Did god just slap on different genitalia willy-nilly (so to speak) and leave two on if they stuck? This appears to be yet another major FAIL area of Genesis.....what is the deal with all the sex differences found in nature? :shrug
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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2010, 05:11:13 PM »
A lot of amputees have some bone overgrowth at the end of the stump. Its considered a problem in prosthetics because the bone is usually misshapen and causes pain. The leg isn't growing back, however, it is just the stump's natural stem cells overgrowing like a benign tumour. The bone intrudes into the stump soft tissue, although sometimes bone can grow through the stump in the direction the limb used to be. This is not a limb growing back, however, and has nothing whatsoever to do with God.

Abstract here about the problem: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14566159

Thanks Ada-B, I bet this is what happened and she is too far gone to tell the truth. I can see how a very religious person who has some bone re-growth could fool themselves and proclaim it is a miracle, but all the while it hurts like hell. 
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2010, 02:52:06 PM »
Completely OT but did god make ANY females of a species at the beginning? Or were all females an afterthought? Was it just a big Gay Zoo Boys in the Garden Party? Since nothing was supposed to ever die in Eden, you would not need any actual reproduction. So I guess you could just go with one sex at first. Leaving out the whole Adam's "loneliness and he needed a helpmeet" stuff. 

But did god just make all neuter critters at first and then add the naughty bits for both sexes later, after the Fall? If so, why are there living things that are hermaphroditic? Why isn't everything like that, since it seems pretty efficient? Did god just slap on different genitalia willy-nilly (so to speak) and leave two on if they stuck? This appears to be yet another major FAIL area of Genesis.....what is the deal with all the sex differences found in nature? :shrug

mmm, what happens in Eden stays in Eden. 
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Re: Actual Claim of Regeneration of Left Leg
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2010, 02:55:48 PM »
Completely OT but did god make ANY females of a species at the beginning? Or were all females an afterthought? Was it just a big Gay Zoo Boys in the Garden Party?

Very tough questions there, nogodsforme. Let's give the ole' Christian Eight Ball a shake a see what it says the answer is!

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