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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #116 on: March 27, 2010, 10:36:49 PM »
I would be interested in debating Bad Pear on the supposed objectivity of certain moral values, if he is interested.

I will accept good sir.
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #117 on: March 28, 2010, 08:34:14 AM »
What is the procedure? should an admin start a debate and be judge, does he give a score?
the subject will be "Nothing can be used to prove Islam wrong,  while other religions can be proved wrong"

I will start a debate thread momentarily. There is no "score", it's up to the readers to determine for themselves who made their points the best.

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #118 on: March 28, 2010, 08:39:50 AM »
Here is the Debate thread (I had to shorten the title a bit). Servant of Allah will go first and make an opening statement -

http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php?topic=13458.0

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #119 on: June 28, 2010, 09:22:55 AM »
Ok, since the other guy didn't ask, I will.

I've invited the forum to argue any point with me one on one.
I've got a list of seven, and it's probably going to grow, so could I please get a mod for this?

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #120 on: June 29, 2010, 03:50:13 PM »
Alright, Mod 25 has messaged Deus regarding the debate between me and SplashKay, the debate will include the following;

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To confirm, the debate will be regarding evolution, where you will present points against it, and I will use the best of my knowledge to rebuttle your points. It would also be nice if you had an alternative theory, which I could make points against, and we could discuss.
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #121 on: June 29, 2010, 05:46:18 PM »
Include a ground rule about citations and copypasta.

I think it will quickly devolve into:

"I read this at this link, disprove it!" (you do the heavy lifting and take it apart, then Splash simply tracks down another website reinforcing his/her ignorant inculcated fantasy and repeats without ever facing the truth).
You believe evolution and there is no evidence for that. Where is the fossil record of a half man half ape. I've only ever heard about it in reading.

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #122 on: June 30, 2010, 05:08:13 PM »
Hi,

Owing to a number of external commitments and pressures at the present time, I've asked Admin 1 and Moderator_A25 to seek another moderator for the Debate Forums, as I do not feel that I am able to devote the time and energy to moderating formal debates that the participants should expect and deserve. I hope this does not unduly delay the proceedings, and offer my apologies to those affected.

I'd like to offer my apologies in particular to those who had to wait for some time for a reply to my PMs owing to prolonged absences - and wish the best of luck to all who participate in future debates.

Best wishes

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #123 on: July 07, 2010, 04:10:01 PM »
Hear Ye!  Hear Ye!

As newly appointed Grand Overlord Mod of Debate, I hear your request and in my beneficience, I grant thusly.

Ok, since the other guy didn't ask, I will.

I've invited the forum to argue any point with me one on one.
I've got a list of seven, and it's probably going to grow, so could I please get a mod for this?

Ta.


SplashKay,

Please name your opponent and your topic.  As I find applying pronouns to you to be awkward, please also provide your gender. 

You may debate in any format you choose, however if it becomes an unruly mess I will descend upon your thead like a legion of pissed seraphim and its end will be swift and terrible.  I strongly recommend you (plural) agree to a narrow scope, and a limited number of posts.  For example:

A - Point
B - Reply
B - Counterpoint
A - Reply

B - Reply to the reply

A - Summation
B - Summation

Extra reading material for you on the topic of limited posts, by my esteemed predecessor, whose enormous shoes I can only hope to fill: Deus ex Machina

I intend to stay out of the fray as much as possible and enter only if I am summoned or if I find an egregious problem.  Fair enough?


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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #124 on: July 08, 2010, 11:56:37 AM »
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removed unnecessary quoting.  There.  Much tidier and easier to read.

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Sorry, im a bit busy at the moment personally to have heated debates.
when the summer holidays come along, I might be able to find some time.

Im learning how to code with Python for a project, and it's taking up quite a bit of my time.

Sorry anyone who wanted a debate, your just gonna have to wait a bit.
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #125 on: July 08, 2010, 12:29:39 PM »
Well.  That was anti-climactic.
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #126 on: August 03, 2010, 01:28:44 AM »
I challenge Omen to a debate on whether or not I'm actually trying to learn about the scientific method here. Or is this against the rules?
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #127 on: August 03, 2010, 07:30:59 AM »
I challenge Omen to a debate on whether or not I'm actually trying to learn about the scientific method here. Or is this against the rules?

I do not believe it is against the rules, per se, but I think debating your own motives would degenerate into a pissing match. 

I would have no problem setting up a thread for you two to discuss the scientific method and its strengths and weaknesses, however.   If you would like to try that, let me know.

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #128 on: September 07, 2010, 08:38:50 AM »
I would like to see a debate between a Muslim and a Christian. I think it would be very educational to everyone.

I'll be the Christian if you've got the Muslim
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #129 on: September 07, 2010, 08:46:40 AM »
I'll be the Christian if you've got the Muslim

I'm pretty sure they've all managed to get themselves banned (we don't currently have any).  :D

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #130 on: September 07, 2010, 09:11:37 AM »
This is a BYOM forum at the moment.  I believe Gnu is a member in a muslim forum.  You might ask him if he has any you can borrow.

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #131 on: September 07, 2010, 09:12:34 AM »
I'll be the Christian if you've got the Muslim

I'm pretty sure they've all managed to get themselves banned (we don't currently have any).  :D

Well let me know when you get one.

(and I'm sorry if that was a really stale reply, I've only just arrived here at this board)
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #132 on: September 07, 2010, 04:30:04 PM »
UP, when are you going to nut up and debate Bible Student?

Why are you afraid? Is it because the devil wants you to go on living like a dirty evilutionist?

 

You believe evolution and there is no evidence for that. Where is the fossil record of a half man half ape. I've only ever heard about it in reading.

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #133 on: September 07, 2010, 04:35:13 PM »
UP, when are you going to nut up and debate Bible Student?

Seconded.

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #134 on: September 07, 2010, 09:16:42 PM »
UP, when are you going to nut up and debate Bible Student?

Seconded.

I didn't see that that challenge was out there.

Me vs BS on Evolution? Sounds fun.
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #135 on: September 08, 2010, 03:15:57 PM »
UP, when are you going to nut up and debate Bible Student?

Seconded.

I didn't see that that challenge was out there.

Me vs BS on Evolution? Sounds fun.

UP-  What is your position on this topic?

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #136 on: September 09, 2010, 07:59:25 AM »

Real quick (and hopefully this won't merit a response and the mods won't have to relocate us)

Ooo, a post too far. Actually, I was going to break this up two posts ago.  

This is an interesting conversation but not one to be had in this thread.  I do not want to kill it, so I have opened a debate/discussion thread and commentary thread in Discussion room 1.  I encourage you to use them.

Right now the discussion is limited to BibleStudent and University Pastor, but if they both agree, Timo - or anyone else they mutually agree to - may join.  But please let me know.

Go forth and argue.

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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #137 on: September 14, 2010, 12:40:24 PM »
Way back in 2009, Deus Ex Machina offered up a topic for debate:

"This House Believes that the innate capacity for understanding of right and wrong indicates a moral law-giver."

After participating briefly in a thread that is now in the Bottomless Pit (abandon all hope ye who enter here) I suggested in there that a better format for such a discussion might be a formal-ish debate, with post limits and word count limits.

Thus, my proposal:

We debate the question "Is the basis for morality natural or supernatural?" (Which seems to be where the thread is going, away from "are morals objective?")  To put in the format of a debate, it would be

"This house believes that the basis for morality is not natural, but supernatural"

The format I'd suggest would be: (word counts adapted from times here)[1]

Aff: 1200 word opening statement
Neg: 1400 word opening statement
Aff: 800 word rebuttal
Neg: 1200 word rebuttal/closing
Aff: 600 word closing

Each debater would have 96 hours to make their reply or forfeit the debate.  This would allow enough time to construct well thought out arguments and responses.

I can take the affirmative[2] and I presume lots of folks on this board would be happy to take the negative.  ;)

Let me know if anyone is interested...

Thanks!

edit: word counts were a little too stingy, upping them.
 1. That site mentions cross-x, which I skipped because I felt it would be hard to wedge that into an internet forum like this one.  If others have a good idea of how to handle that, I'd be more than happy to include it if desired.
 2. though others are welcome to take it in my place
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #138 on: November 07, 2010, 11:37:31 PM »
Where u at C?
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #139 on: November 07, 2010, 11:39:01 PM »
Would you like to post the topic of the debate and who will be in the debate?
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #140 on: November 07, 2010, 11:39:58 PM »
What are we supposed to be debating?
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #141 on: November 07, 2010, 11:41:33 PM »
What are we supposed to be debating?

Take your pick. Proof of the Judeo-Christian God, proof of that God's love, whatever. Also here are the rules for the discussion board: http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forums/index.php?topic=11221.0

By the way, be serious. None of that troll-stuff in the General section you posted.
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #142 on: November 07, 2010, 11:45:50 PM »
I openly acknowledge my beliefs. You decide what you want to discuss.
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #143 on: November 08, 2010, 03:57:22 AM »
You are the one showing interest in a the formal debate section, CG.  Why don't you pick a topic?
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Re: Debate Challenges
« Reply #144 on: November 08, 2010, 08:52:06 AM »
Hi all.

Once you settle on a topic I will need to know the format.  Will it be formal?  If so, how many rebuttals?  Whom will go first?  This is important.  I see the lack of agreement on format (or following anything they had agreed to) as the main reason for the failure of the debate between BibleStudent and UniversityPastor.  So please get the rules down now.

By the way, be serious. None of that troll-stuff in the General section you posted.

Trollery in the debate area will be met with swift and terrible punishment.  Then I will show up at your house to confiscate your computer.     


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