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Christianity &Islam &Judaism Thomas on 12 Nov 2009 12:33 am

“Why Won’t God Heal Amputees?” is having a significant effect in Christian communities

“Why Won’t God Heal Amputees?” is having a significant effect in Christian communities. Examples:

Even Mr. D’souza has to deal with it:

36 Responses to ““Why Won’t God Heal Amputees?” is having a significant effect in Christian communities”

  1. on 12 Nov 2009 at 7:08 pm 1.aspentroll.myid.net said …

    Poor old Dinesh, he was at a loss to answer the question in any reasonable way. He tried to wing it but failed miserably. Most of the other vids attempting this answer also failed. I guess when they were assembling the bible,even after the 4th or 5th time, all those years ago, they didn’t count on anyone asking such a pointed question. There are many other just as valid that the bible and the faithful can’t answer. When will common sense kick in and allow people to see that belief in god(s) is abnormal and delusional.

  2. on 12 Nov 2009 at 7:36 pm 2.Matt P said …

    Just speechless. I cannot comprehend how these peoples brain works, or if it even does. Not commenting on the 4th one of course. It was brilliant.

  3. on 12 Nov 2009 at 7:41 pm 3.Jessica Sideways said …

    I can’t help but wonder how the hell these people even get into religion…

  4. on 12 Nov 2009 at 7:41 pm 4.Ben said …

    Is that all that is bothering atheist? He will in his own time. When we receive a new body in glory and live with Christ forever.

  5. on 12 Nov 2009 at 8:34 pm 5.Heidi said …

    So, Ben… are you trying to say that your prayers are only answered after you’re dead? Convenient.

    Tell you what, Ben. If you send me a thousand dollars, I’ll make sure to water your garden and feed your pets when you get raptured. For real.

  6. on 12 Nov 2009 at 8:51 pm 6.Joel said …

    I’m not even going to watch all these.

    To argue against the first minute of the first video,

    Why would God heal amputees?

    Well, because the amputees prayed and asked God to heal them. The Bible specifically states that anything asked of him will be received without any restrictions that we typically associate with his response.

    In Matthew 18:19 Jesus says it again:
    Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    Surely more than 2 people are praying for it.

    If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer. [Matthew 21:21]

    If you ask anything in my name, I will do it. [John 14:14]

    Ask, and it will be given you. [Matthew 7:7]

    Here is an appropriate response for this issue:
    http://www.whydoesgodhateamputees.com/video8.htm

  7. on 12 Nov 2009 at 11:06 pm 7.Jessica Sideways said …

    Personally, I am not going to wait around for your magical sky daddy to “give me a new body” when he could not even do a proper job the first time around. Hell, what your God could not fix, a doctor in the urban jungle of Thailand could. Does that mean Dr. Pichet is more powerful than your god since he could correct the mistake that your imaginary god supposedly made…

  8. on 12 Nov 2009 at 11:46 pm 8.Ben said …

    Heidi if you could provide me with your name, bank account SS and address I’ll be glad to forward what you need.

  9. on 13 Nov 2009 at 4:17 pm 9.Hrothgir Ó Dómhnaill said …

    I’d suggest Paypal. It’s more reliable that the word of a man with an imaginary friend who’d probably just give the details to scammers.

  10. on 15 Nov 2009 at 5:03 am 10.Mr. Atheist said …

    Fantastic. #2 especially perplexed me. The preacher kept flip-flopping on whether miracles can ever really occur at all!

  11. on 17 Nov 2009 at 8:06 pm 11.Paul - Canterbury Atheist Blog said …

    Gidday there,

    I have posed a similar theological ponder-able on my humble blog & just yesterday I posted a similar You Tube asking the same question, that’s:

    “What happens to ones Soul after a brain transfer?”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h-y_X5YKPc

    Since your site gets about a zillion hits to my one I’d appreciate if you could reproduce the You-Tube and see what answers you get.

    So far the replies on my blog have been amusing and contradictory as theists scramble to invent an answer.

    So have fun with this one as well.

    Cheers.

    Paul.

  12. on 18 Nov 2009 at 2:14 am 12.A Christian said …

    Do you really think you can topple such a great religion as Christianity with such a simple question? You have reduced the Christian God and worldview to a doctrine so simple and contradictory that it is no wonder it is so easily toppled. Then you go around asking Christians a question practically on level with “does your mother know that you’re stupid” its no wonder they have trouble answering it. If I say no, it means I’m stupid and my mother doesn’t know, and if I answer yes I’m stupid and my mother knows, but either way I answer I’m stupid. Like this playground question, the question “why doesn’t God heal amputees” also rests on false assumptions.

    (1) The Bible does not teach that God is a vending machine. This verse does not refer specifically to healing, but it is about prayer, and its very clear that God is NOT a vending machine.
    “You do not have, because you do not ask God. When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.” James 4:2-3

    (2) The entire point of the verse that states faith the size of a tiny mustard seed can move mountains is NOT that it’s oh so easy to move a mountain, but that humans have so LITTLE faith, that our faith is even smaller than a mustard seed. The Bible is a cohesive work, meant to be interpreted in context:

    “14When they came to the crowd, a man approached Jesus and knelt before him. 15″Lord, have mercy on my son,” he said. “He has seizures and is suffering greatly. He often falls into the fire or into the water. 16I brought him to your disciples, but they could not heal him.” 17″O unbelieving and perverse generation,” Jesus replied, “how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you? Bring the boy here to me.” 18Jesus rebuked the demon, and it came out of the boy, and he was healed from that moment. 19Then the disciples came to Jesus in private and asked, “Why couldn’t we drive it out?” 20He replied, “Because you have so little faith. I tell you the truth, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” Mathew 17:14-20

    (3) To choose healing amputees as your challenge is equivalent to asking why God does not perform miracles so amazing that the only explanation is supernatural. You are challenging Christians for proof of God because you assume there is none. My answer is that God did and does prove his power and existence through miracles. Since I hold the Bible to be an accurate historical account, I know that God performed miracles equal to and greater than healing amputees (lame men walk, sight to the blind, healed leprosy, raised people from the dead) These are rather minor to other miracles performed by God for the pure benefit of displaying his glory and power…“For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” Romans 9:17 …God performed miracles to many witnesses, and we have a record of them. So you must either prove to me the complete fallacy of the Bible, which makes destroying my faith a bit more complicated that asking me your amputee question, or your contention must become: why doesn’t God perform super miracles for ME. NOW. I hold that He does. Atheists like to claim all “natural” evidence for themselves and require Christians to come up with some supernatural evidence for God. That’s ridiculous from my point of view. God created the natural world, so to me it is the best evidence for His existence, just as pottery is the best evidence that there is a potter around.
    -Atheism cannot explain the first cell. Spontaneous generation is impossible. The universe naturally moves toward increased entropy (no one expects an explosion in a brick factory to produce a house, no matter how many explosions occur over however many billion years, but we believe some explosion of energy resulted in the formation of nucleotides, amino acids, and carbolipids?) Chaos cannot bring order; order and intelligence have only ever in human experience been derived from a source of order and intelligence (no one walking in a forest who sees a watch lying among the pine needles would think it had been produced by a tree). Should we assume that the laws of physics sprung from chaos? Lastly there is also no way to get past the issue of irreducible complexity.
    -Every day I go to class and learn about the human immune system and DNA I am faced with a supernatural miracle; that is I cannot explain the complexity that is the human body without looking to God as a cause. You believe a healed amputation would definitively point toward God. However, I wonder if every prayer for healing were answered, and this became normal, would you not also take that for granted? It would become just another “natural” occurrence distinct from the existence of God in our minds. Hell…you already believe in spontaneous generation.

    (4)The question why doesn’t God heal amputees also assumes that if God is both good and omnipotent, he would of course do the decent thing and heal persons with missing limbs. But why stop there? The Bible says God knows what we need even before we come to him in prayer (Mathew 6:8). So why does God make us grovel to him first? Is He just narcissistic? And why stop at amputees? Why not heal all sickness. He’s an infinite being after all, its not like it would tire Him. And why stop at physical sickness. Why not heal all mental sickness which leads people to commit terrible crimes of rape and murder? Suppose people pray for rain in a drought and it comes. They say God controlled the weather and saved them. So, why doesn’t God cause a hurricane to stop off the coast and not destroy an entire city? Its parallel to your amputee question isn’t it? So basically, you’re asking why God allows any evil to exist in the world. You think you’re so clever? You think this great question has never before been asked? Have you read any of the classic answers written throughout history and found in the Bible? Or do you simply prefer to poll “college educated engineers and accountants.” Are you afraid of the answers the trained theologians and philosophers of the Church have already given?

    You have not dealt Christianity a blow. Your question, although rephrased, has been asked many, many times before…and already answered. I regret if you have shaken the faith of any Christians, for such a simple question should not.

  13. on 18 Nov 2009 at 2:57 am 13.Barney said …

    my eyes glazed over

  14. on 18 Nov 2009 at 3:03 am 14.jake said …

    Me too, Barney

  15. on 18 Nov 2009 at 12:20 pm 15.Xenon said …

    Then Barney can you remover your long rambling post on the other thread. Geez…

  16. on 18 Nov 2009 at 1:02 pm 16.Barney said …

    Sure.

    Uh, no, wait. I can’t.

    Stupid question.

  17. on 18 Nov 2009 at 5:34 pm 17.Xenon said …

    Put the bullet back in your pocket Barney. Don’t whine about another posters rambling when you just finish doing the same. Don’t force me to let Earnest T lose on you.

  18. on 18 Nov 2009 at 6:15 pm 18.AntiRoss said …

    Well, comment 12 by “A Christian” seems kind of like one of those drive by’s – everything that the person ever thought summed up in a largely incoherent rant – and then never to return. We’ll see.

    I like the idea of a vending machine god, though. Put in your tithe/confession/repentance and get a ticket to heaven. Pop in another coin for a Pascal pass if you’re not sure.

    The person thinks that the bible is a history book, so that’s just silly – needs to close the Sunday school colouring books and read sone real history.
    The science stuff is too idiotic to fathom. To expand upon Barney’s reaction, it made my brain glaze over. I felt like I was getting stupider just reading it. It would take hours to deal with all that pseudo-scientific garbage.

    In section four, A Christian asks enough pointed hypothetical questions that it made me wonder why he/she would bother worshipping such a creature, rather than just begrudgingly acknowledging it as his/her pretty much useless creator.

  19. on 18 Nov 2009 at 7:27 pm 19.Barney said …

    Xenon, I’ll give you that one. Pretty funny.

  20. on 18 Nov 2009 at 9:23 pm 20.Xenon said …

    Its all about having a little fun Barney. I’m glad you didn’t take it to seriously.

  21. on 18 Nov 2009 at 11:15 pm 21.A Christian said …

    I’m sorry. I thought this site was directed toward the “college educated” The youtube posts designed by this site take longer to watch than my post would take to read.

  22. on 19 Nov 2009 at 12:43 am 22.A Christian said …

    Ah…I see now why you call it a rant. You don’t see how evolution, and the historical integrity of the Bible have anything to do with answering the amputation question. But please try to understand, that to me it has everything to answering the amputation question.

    AntiRoss: I am fully aware that you think I’m silly for believing the Bible is historically accurate. I wrote that because whoever asks the amputee question is assuming that if they can show me (someone who believes in a supernatural being) that I cannot point to any definitive supernatural miracles, that my faith will be shattered. It is, unfortunately for you, a bit more complicated that that, since I believe I CAN point to supernatural miracles.

    As for why I would worship a “useless” God; I have no alternative. I absolutely cannot believe the universe evolved from nothing on its own. Sure there are examples like bacteria evolving antibiotic resistance, and Darwin’s finch beaks, but that’s micro-evolution. That’s either the loss or mixing around of genetic material that’s already present. I totally agree with that. What I cannot believe is that chaos produced the first cell. There is absolutely nothing scientific to support it. Nor do we have scientific evidence for an amoeba ever making enough DNA replication errors to become a human (no matter how many billion years). You think I’m funny? I think you’re funny.

  23. on 19 Nov 2009 at 12:44 am 23.A Christian said …

    …lol that sounds bad. I do not in my opinion worship a “useless” God. I think God is very active and very powerful. But that really is another discussion…

  24. on 19 Nov 2009 at 1:19 am 24.one legged said …

    I am an amputee, been that way for five years now. It sucks. I believe in god “not saying I go to church or anything cause I dont and not cause god took my leg I just dont trust the church or its judgemental inhabitants.” I believe everything happens for a reason. I know what your thinking (yeah right whatever) but really think about it. For example. I was a passenger in a car traveling 130 mph, the car became airborne, hit a very large cedar tree, on the passenger side at the passenger side door, literally exploded (not in a fireball) into a million pieces. I was thrown almost 300 ft through the air while bouncing of the ground, like skipping a rock, on frozen ground. I should be dead. It was 11:30 pm on a tuesday in the country… Nobody was around. This is the kinda town where they roll up the streets at sundown. This guy just happens to be traveling down this road at 11:30 pm out in the middle of knowhere. He stops calls 911. I get to the hospital several miles away before i bleed to death cause my leg was ripped off at the knee. My point is this guy didnt even live near the crash site. As a matter of fact he lives some thirty miles away. The only reason he was out there in bfe (bum f*#k egypt) was because him and his wife were arguing about bills. He later told me he was just aimlessly driving and really didnt know why he was even out there. But while laying there on the cold ground bleeding I was totally at peace. I wasnt scared I was praying for my best friend and asking for forgivness and knew my prayers were already answered. I was ready to die and not sad at all. I was still hurting like hell, not in shock…yet, just knew everything was going to be ok…….If God is not done with you yet then it is not your time. God has work for you to do. Evidently I dont need my left leg for my part of the job. My comfort and pride are not Gods priorities. Fullfilling my mission for him is.
    We dont always get what we ask for. I know what the scripture says. But we get what we need, if its his will. Ive been asking for a prostetic for years and have not received it yet. But someone gave me a new wheelchair just a couple weeks ago and im thankfull for it. Talk to God like your friend. Dont give him lip service, and dont act like a spoiled child when you dont get what you want.

  25. on 19 Nov 2009 at 3:05 am 25.AntiRoss said …

    To: A Christian,
    – this is a bit long -
    I called it a rant because it was like getting hit with 50 rolled up balls of paper at once. Nothing substantive, but too much to fight off in one comment.

    The one thing that you did expand upon a bit was the ‘not enough faith’ defense. This a common apologist tactic to explain away your god’s sudden unwillingness to show himself, or do anything positive. You can’t lose with this one because you can always move the goalposts. But you’re basically blaming human beings, like usual, for everything that is wrong. Like a victim of abuse.

    In terms of your ‘history book’, I can’t think of one thing in the bible that is historically accurate except for a couple of verifiable characters, and most of the geography. There may indeed be some accurate stuff in there, but none of the important stuff has been verified (except by Christian apologists, or Christian theologians, or copies of manuscripts made by Christians…). The so called miracles are unconvincing and common to the era.

    As to the universe ‘evolving from nothing on its own’, frankly, I don’t understand advanced physics either, but it’s much more fascinating to try to come to grips with that than to just read Genesis and be satisfied with some kind of fawning awe.

    The other science stuff seems to amount to you not being able to come to grips with natural explanations. Or even understand that macro evolution is just micro evolution over a longer period of time. I don’t see why that is so hard to get. Eventually members of one species in different locations will no longer be able to interbreed and will move on according to their own local environment. Sometimes substantially, sometimes not.
    Evidence of the supernatural would mean that there was some real sign of something not natural happening. Evidence of ID would mean that the random mutations (before the laws of natural selection come to play) would all be positive. They’re not. They’re random.
    You personally can’t conceive of explanations that don’t involve meddling by an invisible being. Well, I can. The examples you cite as supernatural miracles all amount to your own incredulity, or amazement. Or innocence.

    You state that you cannot believe that chaos created the first cell. Chaos is probably a misleading word as I expect that there was much molecular order – rocks and crystals and elements ‘n such, but, nonetheless, why not? Are you aware of the odds of abiogenesis not happening? Somewhere? It’s not magic, it’s just a self-replicating molecule. There’s certainly been enough time.

    The “useless god” thing is exactly what first turned me away from Christianity, after the first time I read the bible, that is. You say you have no alternative. I disagree. Why worship a jealous, homocidal maniac that thinks it’s a great idea to rescue humanity from the sins that he made them prone to by sacrificing himself, or his son or something, and using a blood ritual for good measure, and then negating the sacrifice by showing up alive afterwards?

  26. on 19 Nov 2009 at 10:23 am 26.Anonymous said …

    Good grief. The question boils down to why won’t the god character heal amputees when it’s claimed to heal cancer victims? Does the god not like amputees?
    If the excuse is that the god doesn’t heal anyone, at least that shows some consistency, but then from where comes the Christian claims of the god performing healing miracles?

  27. on 19 Nov 2009 at 1:56 pm 27.The Nabi said …

    The Buddha levitated to found his religion. Some say the Buddha corrected Hinduism. The Christ resurrected to found his religion. Some say the Christ corrected Judaism. The Prophet used prophecy to found his Islam whilst the Guru used enlightenment to found Sikhism. I am the Nabi and I have found my religion on universalism. It is the 7th religion if we took the six religions of the world to be Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism,Christianity, Islam and Sikhism. All religions are founded by miraculous acts. Let us define a miracle as the defiance of a natural law. And natural means no man made, but does natural means self-made or self-created? I must add all miracles happens by the permission of God Lord God. It will be a miracle indeed to the believers, the agnostics and the atheist alike to see amputees limbs growing back like the tail of a lizard.

    I have called my self the Nabi from an Arabic name which means the one who brings into the world a new religion. I have seen God Lord God with my own eyes about ten times to date. I am 47 years old.

    I have shown that God Lord God exist by a proof and a theory that I submitted to the University of Southern Queensland in Australia and Harvard divinity school in the US respectively. And from these two sources nobody is ever to ask but does God exist? I can tell you right now that you are to call God Lord God this way because that is how he is to be addressed in this age of the internet. And you must say with your lips or in your heart God Lord God wherever you are to say or read God even in holiest of the scriptures.

    I have argued in my thesis entitled the definitive proof of the existence of God Lord God that the so called problem of evil or the devil is a necessary evil. We hated racism but love Dr. King, we hated apartheid but love Mandela, we hate poverty but love Mother Teresa and we could go on. The problem of evil creates our heroes and heroines. We are just waiting for that genetic genius who would develop a drug that would make the limp grow back again as the tail of the lizard does. I can imagine even taking a vaccine just in case you might loose your limp.

    In my proof I have shown that the notion of the infinite regression was fallacious. With the notion of the infinite regression out of the way we find that both the design argument and the first cause argument becoming proof of the existence of God Lord God. And the combined conclusions of these arguments say that God Lord God is the unmade designer and the first cause of everything.

  28. on 22 Nov 2009 at 1:49 am 28.Chow said …

    “Why Won’t God Heal Amputees?”
    This is almost like asking:
    “Why Won’t God Revive Dead?”
    Are you expecting after praying you will see your limb grow back? You knew that is impossible. Be logical and reasonable and pray with faith.

    If Jesus is here on earth today, it shouldn’t be any problem. As He could even revive dead. Only God has the power to do it, the miracle will happen only by the power of either Almighty God, Jesus Christ or Holy Spirit.

    Consider these from the bible:
    Matthew 9:
    28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord.

    29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According
    to your faith be it unto you.

    30 And their eyes were opened; and Jesus straitly charged them, saying, See that no man know it.

    Even God cannot help you if you have no faith.
    You will never know what will happen tomorrow, you need to have faith. Study the bible and seek God.

    Isaiah 14:12
    How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

    The Lucifer or Demon did an incredible job to make people believing anything (false gods, believing nothing) but Jesus Christ as the Savior and the Loving Father, Jenovah, the Sovereign Lord our God.

    Demon just want to drag us with him and be in hell.

    Why the Atheists refuse to be saved and prefer hell? Wake up now, God humbly gave his only begotten Son to save us from our so-called sins.

    What do you lose by believing Him, what do you gain by not?

    I.John 4:9
    In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.

    Have you asked God why? He could answer that.
    Thank you for reading and God bless you.

  29. on 22 Nov 2009 at 2:32 am 29.Chow said …

    People are extremely selfish and just want instant reward and believing not what they cannot see.

    Have you really put some effort to study the scriptures or bible, the words from God? Internet is a great source and I do it from time to time.

    Have you heard of the “Story of Job”? Study it, God will test on the faithful ones.

    There is so much to study in bible…

    Good source of info, to expand your knowledge:
    http://www.christianity.com

  30. on 22 Nov 2009 at 2:43 am 30.Chow said …

    The Story of Job
    http://www.shvoong.com/books/417587-story-job/

    The rest is up to you. God cannot make you believe Him, he could show you the path but you have to choose to follow or not.

    Because God want us to come to him willingly and truthfully not like robots or “pre-programmed” human. Would you love a robotic dogs or a real dog or cat or whatever?

  31. on 22 Nov 2009 at 3:17 am 31.Healed Amputee said …

    Well folks, it looks like we were wrong. There really is a God after all, or at least some ‘thing’ up there that heals and answers prayers. Young Angie O’Plasty was a documented amputee after a freak airplane accident that left her two legs less. Keyword being ‘was’ an amputee because yesterday morning she woke up to a very pleasant surprise, an itchy toe. Angie had miraculously discovered she had two full legs again.
    “The night before we held a prayer service at our church and we all laid hands on Angie, we asked that God would show mercy on our child and heal her to finally prove that he really is a merciful and loving God” said Angie’s mother.
    Young Angie lost her legs back in 2004 after a very bizarre incident that took place aboard a Boeing 747 heading from New York to Calgary. “She went to the on-board washroom during the flight and saw a bug crawling across the floor. Out of fright Angie jumped onto the toilet seat… and unfortunately slipped with both legs plunging into the toilet bowl. When she tried to pull her legs out, she couldn’t and by the time we landed it was too late, the circulation in both legs had been cut off for too long- both legs had to be amputated below her knee caps” explains Angie’s father.

    We’ve tried contacting the owner of whywontgodhealamputees.com to get his response but thus far have been unsuccessful. There have been unconfirmed sightings that the website owner has finally left his mothers basement and is spending the day in a synagogue.
    We’ve also noticed YouTube parodies popping up that seem to mock our atheist bus campaign now that scientists have confirmed Ms. O’Plasty’s miraculous healing. A parody has been created based on the widely used “Der Untergang” movie which in the past has been used to parody other events such as the Grand Theft Auto 4 Release on PC. See video to the right for clip about our campaign.
    It is not known what will be the next move of the bus campaign now that young Angie O’Plasty’s legs have been healed by God but we are exploring our options. It was proposed that we use the money to spread the news about this incident but no decisions have been made on what do with the remaining donations.
    Little Angie wanted to send a message to all our website viewers and we agreed to pass it along, she said “Happy April 1st everybody… don’t be fooled!”

  32. on 22 Nov 2009 at 4:32 am 32.Chow said …

    Why Does God Allow SUFFERING?
    http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/AS/AS.pdf

    Find the answer there…

    God Bless you all.

  33. on 23 Nov 2009 at 8:11 am 33.AntiRoss said …

    It’s your fault Chow!
    There’s suffering because your faith isn’t strong enough. You need to live a life more like Job’s.
    It’s your responsibility now to save the world. 
    Quick, get thee to a street corner and proselytizeth ye upon the multitude for they knoweth not of the truth. And waveth thine arms wildly and frotheth thee at thine mouth somewhat. Yea, that worketh best. 
    I’ll have a beer and watch. Maybe I’ll feed you some choice bible quotes just to help. Maybe I’ll get them from here:
    http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html
    Except that these are more fun…
    http://www.cafepress.com/landoverbaptist/75553

       

  34. on 23 Nov 2009 at 2:37 pm 34.Rex said …

    Chow keep up the good fight. There are those who make a difference – then there are those who criticize out of a guilty conscious I suppose. Chin up Chow, you are on the right path.

  35. on 24 Nov 2009 at 5:40 am 35.Chow said …

    Thanks Rex for your comment & encouragement, I am certain you are on the right path too.

    AntiRoss. Nice sites to ponder about.

    Consider what had we done to this world, there is crime that’s why we need law.
    Almighty God’s law and judgment sometimes is beyond our understanding. For instance, a dog is trying to understand and learn from human’s instructions. Dog is surely less intelligent than human and not to mention moral and so on.

    To really grasp the meaning hidden behind those scriptures, we need to study more in-depth of bible and we shouldn’t just look at certain verse and judge the whole book.

    To really understand the meaning and what God says to this world, it is better to look it in context and cross reference rather than certain verse. Those who really want to know and seek God will find it.

    Matthew 7:7
    Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:

    I normally study from the internet source, there is unbelievably plentiful of study material and booklets about bible and for those who struggle to understand scripture, like me.

    http://www.ucg.org – excellent site.

  36. on 24 Nov 2009 at 9:04 am 36.Chow said …

    Forgive me if I misinterpreted and misguided. What I can see is the God is telling the world what he could do to those who sinned against him. He warned us the sinners who constantly do wrong deeds and sinned against him will have no good fortune, death is the penalty.

    But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.(Matthew 4:4).

    He want his Kingdom of God (heaven) to be perfectly free of evil ones or sinners. Lucifer was one of the Archangels that once served God and because of his inequity and selfish desires. He want to be the most high and take over God’s Kingdom, and thus cause a war in heaven. God has no choice but to cast him out of heaven together with his followers (angels). This tragedy should not be happening again in his new Kingdom.

    Psalm 14:
    1 The fool [a] says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
    2 The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God.
    3 All have turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.

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