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Christianity Thomas on 23 Sep 2009 12:36 am

Most Christians are bigots

The definition of bigot:

a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

Here is what the bigotry looks like in our world:

Why are Christians afraid of Atheists?

This Christian fear became VERY evident to me in the past month. I was in a meeting with a man I was considering joining in a business partnership. He believed I was a Christian as he openly explained that he would only do business with fellow Christians. He said that anyone who didn’t believe in God couldn’t be trusted. There is nothing quite like being inadvertently insulted to your face. Since I don’t like partnering with openly bigoted people, I didn’t join with him in the business venture.

Now just a few days ago I was in another meeting with a group trying to convince me to join their business network. They sent me their business agreement form containing core values and legal information. What surprised me is their core values openly spoke about the God of the Bible as the foundation of their “Christ-like” values. By signing the document, I was being required to believe in their version of God or I wasn’t welcome as a business vendor. Only in America would this ever happen.

Actually, this is a common feature of religion in general.

15 Responses to “Most Christians are bigots”

  1. on 23 Sep 2009 at 1:11 pm 1.nathan huckabee said …

    i love the part where your like “I don’t like partnering with openly bigoted people,”


  2. on 23 Sep 2009 at 1:19 pm 2.Adam said …

    I don’t know where Christians got off thinking we should be close minded, especially to open-minded, free, progressive thinking.
    I feel like the only Christian on Earth that actually accepts ppl. As a matter of fact, I get along better with atheists, because they’re open to facts and new ideas.

  3. on 23 Sep 2009 at 9:25 pm 3.Ben said …

    “a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.”

    Sort of like atheist calling others delusional, insane and ALL Christians bigot. Yeah, it fits.

  4. on 24 Sep 2009 at 4:58 am 4.AntiRoss said …

    Ben, really?
    You’re a member of a tradition of horrifying bigotry – one which has spent century upon century persecuting and terrifying innocent people all over the world, including atheists, justifying and supporting real suffering, and still is… – and you have the naive gall to utter such a pathetic platitude?
    Are you proud of your history of suppressing medicine, science, and pretty much freedom of all kinds, replacing it with fear and oppression?
    How can anyone look in the mirror and say I’m a proud Christian and not face up to their own history? Are you completely unaware? Have you heard of the Cathars? Have you heard of the dark ages? Would you join the Ku Klux Klan now saying: “oh, well, that’s not ‘my’ Klan, we don’t do that anymore…”
    Maybe take a moment to reflect on what you stand for. I’m pretty sure the moniker of deluded fits…

  5. on 24 Sep 2009 at 12:03 pm 5.Ben said …

    I am not a proud Christian, I am a humble Christian. Calling all Christians bigots is like calling all atheist bigots, because a few are bigots. You do realize you have atheist that are bigots, rapist and crooks do you not? An atheist murdered the very founder of the your atheist flagship the AA.
    You do realize atheist as well have a history of murder and mayhem do you not? That doesn’t make all atheist as such. Is that really the route you desire to take? It is such a nonsensical position.

    I was not a part of the dark ages, the KKK, the USSR, Red Cnina, witch trials, the Cathars, the Inquisition or any time of peril. I wasn’t a part of the oppression of Christians in the Roman emprie or in the Muslim nations therefore I do not dwell there.

    Would you be suggesting I stop calling myself an American since we murdered Indians & stole their land? I doubt you would. I live for now and I concentrate on the good I may produce as a Christian while encouraging others to do so. To ignore all the good while highlighting the bad is an exercise in dishonesty. To whine and pout about past atrocities is a pointless exercise other than to learn from them. It only harms the one who dwells there.

  6. on 24 Sep 2009 at 1:31 pm 6.AntiRoss said …

    Well, that’s a pretty good point about Americans and native peoples…
    …but the comparison is a little off, I think.
    First off, people have probably been fighting and killing over land for as long as we’ve been around…it’s certainly prominent in the old testament. Not something to be proud of, but a fact of our human nature. One which we may one day overcome. Maybe.
    Being American is largely due to your residence or place of birth. It is impractical to denounce your citizenship when that is where you live, work, etc.
    I’ll concede that there is a good point in there, though. The difference is that being a Christian means subscribing to a cult that has a far far more embarrassing history and it is one that is based on superstition and deliberate repression. I think that all Christians should take time to deeply reflect on just how much horror they have caused in their tenure vs how much supposed good they’ve done.
    I think that anyone with a sense of honor would have to take a step back and think “maybe I can do good things in this world without being a part of this disgusting religion.”
    The answer is, of course, yes. One can do a lot of good without the extra baggage of trying to convert everyone else to a Christian worldview “for their own good”.

  7. on 24 Sep 2009 at 3:27 pm 7.Ben said …

    So it is OK to remain American although you, as an American have a history of butchering, raping and murdering Indians? Possibly even enslaving Africans? Lincoln ordered the execution of 300 Indians without a trial. Quite embrassing is it not? Convience is not much of an argument.

    Your opinion of Christianity as superstition is opinion so we will ignore your biased assessment. With all do respect, please, spare many the atheist arguments, I have heard them all before. I was an agnostic for many years and used them.

    My relationship with the Lord is much more important than my citizenship in the US so you can understand why I could not renounce it. What is important to you may not be anothers proporities. And why would I since it is the best thing to ever happen to me and has given me a new outlook on life.

    I don’t believe I have done one thing to “convert” you so that is another matter. I cannot convert anyone. Glancing across the website I do see many efforts to convert me.

    You ignored the glaring past I highlighted in the atheism movement. No matter, all beliefs, people groups and religions have blots in their past. Some acknowledge them while others will justify them.

  8. on 24 Sep 2009 at 3:58 pm 8.Denis Loubet said …

    Wow. The sheer nerve of someone calling themselves humble, and then insisting they have a relationship with the infinite creator of the universe.

    Calling Christians bigots is perfectly justified considering what’s written in their Giant Rule Book. It’s not that a few Christians are bigots, it’s that the religion itself insists that they be one.

    Atheists don’t have a rule book. The only thing they all share is a lack of belief in any gods. No inherent bigotry. Well, perhaps it could be considered bigotry against gods, but that’s for the gods to sort out should any exist.

  9. on 24 Sep 2009 at 5:13 pm 9.AntiRoss said …

    It is in fact a superstition. And delusional.

    I and others here are not the ones who claim that there are invisible beings that can read our thoughts…

    I conceded your previous point, Ben, but in Reality-Land you are an American because of your circumstances, in Fantasy-Land you are a Christian because people made stuff up and told it to you as fact. And you trusted and believed them, even though it is utter garbage.
    I took the opposite route from you, it seems. I was a Christian until I read the bible.

  10. on 24 Sep 2009 at 7:43 pm 10.Ben said …

    If it is indeed fact AntiRoss, prove that to me. Give me the facts. Most atheist claim lack of evidence, not fact. “The heavens declare the glory of the Lord”. You can pschoanalyze over a blog if you like, but I don’t think you will convert me:). I assure you I am quite normal.

    It seems you are only willing to denounce atrocities if it is covenient. You are not to the point of renouncing you citizenship over the horrors perpetuated by your nation in the past.

    Denis would it be bragging if I make the claim I can walk? It could be, if everyone here other than me could not walk. However, the claim I make is for everyone, not just me therefore you logic is faulty. I brag on Christ, but never on myself.

  11. on 24 Sep 2009 at 8:46 pm 11.AntiRoss said …

    Prove that an invisible, unseen, all-powerful, all-knowing, all-creating, mindreading entity is a superstition? Well, ya got me there!
    Must be true then.

    You’re really stuck on this citizenship tangent.
    It is a reality that you must live somewhere on the Earth. Just which nation are you suggesting that one move to? Which one hasn’t been the site of fighting and killing over land at one time or another? Unlike religion, it isn’t an issue that you can completely address effectively. We’re stuck with it and we have to do our best to move towards a decent society.

    No one, I hope, condones past atrocities, but religion is used as a vehicle for injustice even today. For example: the pope and his condom issues, the abstinence only idiots, decrying vaccines, lying to children about hell, creation nonsense, and ‘us and them’ crap, …sheesh, one could go on for days…All religion is superstition, not just yours.

  12. on 25 Sep 2009 at 12:24 am 12.Ben said …

    I understand you beleif that Christianity is superstition. The Bible even states you would believe so it truly is expected.

    Christ changed me from one of the meaniest and sorriest human beings on the face of the planet and completely change my life for the better. It is like night and day. It wasn’t a program it was instantly and it wasn’t for 6 months it has been well over 10 years. That is not a delusion, that is my reality. You can spin the reality all you desire, but you cannot take this truth from me with any arguments on the site.

    I wish you the best and hope you will discove it as well.

  13. on 25 Sep 2009 at 3:19 am 13.AntiRoss said …

    Well, Ben,
    I am not wise enough to respond to that comment without sounding completely callous,
    (although, I’m tempted), so…

    I see this forum as an opportunity to discuss ideas openly, and probably quite more aggressively than in person. I really don’t see it as one side trying to convert the other ‘cuz it’ll likely never happen. Those that comment here seem to be well-entrenched in their beliefs, or lack thereof.
    It’s basically an open-to-the-world debate by volunteers on all sides.

    So, again, I am not actually trying to convert you, personally, I’m just participating in a discussion that matters.

  14. on 25 Sep 2009 at 3:26 am 14.AntiRoss said …

    That last comment sounded pretty apologetic…please don’t take it that way. For the record, I think that religion is absolutely the greatest current evil that humankind has invented.

  15. on 07 Jul 2014 at 3:35 am 15.Anonymous said …

    :::Christ changed me from one of the meaniest and sorriest human beings on the face of the planet and completely change my life for the better.:::

    You’re still mean, arrogant and stupid on top of it. That’s what sorry constitutes to most sane people, so subscribing to a genocidal filth delusion didn’t improve you. Apparently, it made you worse.

    Big surprise.

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