“In other words, people of faith are MUCH WEAKER than ahtiests. I am always nervous around people who believe in God. I really do think they are on a “hair” trigger.”
I chose one of the more, um, (how can I put this politely) challenging comments. This is why atheist, with their certainty, are as inane as any other religious group. He hasn’t processed that everyone has faith in something.
To make such a blanket statement is no less than absolute stupidity. He states atheist don’t kill, steal and commit crimes. The founder of the AA was killed by an atheist in a great twist of irony. To carry it a step further I suppose Mao & Stalin were men of great character. I am always amazed how someone blinded by a fanatical belief system processes truth.
on 11 Jul 2009 at 11:06 pm 3.Matt said …
You’re still pretending to be an atheist right?
on 11 Jul 2009 at 11:21 pm 4.Xenon said …
Never have- never will- never could. You are still pretending you can read right?
on 11 Jul 2009 at 11:35 pm 5.Matt said …
That’s funny. You claimed multiple times to be at least agnostic. You’re not that either, I presume.
Your christ doesn’t like to be denied. Stop lying.
on 12 Jul 2009 at 9:33 am 6.Xenon said …
(laughing) you really don’t know the difference between an atheist and agnostic do you? It tends to muffle the arrogance factor. But I give you credit, you did change the subject. Attack the poster rather than the facts.
“Last point, I am not a Christian. I know I know, I don’t attack them constantly so I must be one. Yes, I follow the (sigh) logic you try to employ. What confuses me about guys like you is if you TRULY believe Christians are erroneous and God doesn’t exist why do you bicker so passionately? I think you are attempting to veil your own insecurity on the issue. Individuals who discern an entity doesn’t exist (i.e. Santa Claus) do not spend so much time and energy arguing against that entity.”
You’re not atheist, agnostic, or a christian. Could you pick a side and keep to it, or are you going to continue to troll?
on 12 Jul 2009 at 2:55 pm 8.Matt said …
The “laughing” makes it look like you think I am not worth responding to, and attacking me not my posts. You should probably cut back on your daily hypocrisy.
on 12 Jul 2009 at 4:38 pm 9.Chip E said …
“People of faith are much weaker than atheist” means exactly what? Christians build hospitals, feed the hungry and are persecuted and killed around the world for their beliefs. The irony here is that if a Christian made such a statement about atheist they would call it hateful.
on 13 Jul 2009 at 1:43 am 10.Cheddar said …
Chip, that means atheists don’t need emotional crutches like christians do. (Could also refer to your beliefs as a security blanket you haven’t grown out of.)
Atheists build hospitals, feed the hungry, and are persecuted around the world for their “beliefs” (or lack of them). And all w/o attaching strings.
Christians, on the other hand, attach as many strings as possible to force conversion to christianity. though peer pressure, force, or other means. They also promote hatred against gays, atheists, and other groups. (You have been shown about the OT and how it is still relevant, you angry Christian you.)
on 13 Jul 2009 at 9:31 am 11.moose said …
religion/cults really dont have a leg to stand on.and if you call them out on any subject therin they will argue incoherntly about thier made up cult repeating what is brainwashed into thier heads or if they are without words they will resort to violence. i have seen this firsthand,the majority of them are irrational–cannot have a sit-down and talk of the facts,just not going to happen-they are to far GONE they need to be saved!
on 13 Jul 2009 at 10:43 am 12.Chip E said …
So moose & Cheddar perpetuate the hate. You are the Spocks of the new world. Remembering Spock, he never did make a good captain.
What hospitals have atheist built? Do they even run a single charity? As well, we don’t attach strings. I have never forced anyone into christianity through any relief efforts by Christians. That is just a lie. Strings are mot attached. We share about the Good news of Jesus Christ with everyone because we care about the eternity of each individual. We treat the felt needs while meeting the biggest need just as Jesus did.
Emotional crutch? Never thought of that but in reality it is a spiritual awakening. So yes, I need Jesus to give my life purpose. Not the ultimate dark purposeless end atheist have to look forward to (they think).
on 13 Jul 2009 at 2:35 pm 13.Cheddar said …
Yes, Chip, anybody who tells you you are wrong is a hater. That is exactly how that works … hater. (See what I did there?)
Chip, what do you think missionaries are? If you don’t accept Jesus, they can, have, and will have withheld care.
Secular Charities and Aid groups:
a simple way to provide students in need with resources that our public schools often lack.
lets you connect with and loan money to unique small businesses in the developing world.
The Union of Concerned Scientists
The leading science-based non-profit working for a healthy environment and safer world.
American Red Cross
The American Red Cross, a humanitarian organization led by volunteers, guided by its Congressional Charter and the Fundamental Principles of the International Red Cross Movement, will provide relief to victims of disasters and help people prevent, prepare for, and respond to emergencies. The USA’s premier emergency response organization, over 91% of Red Cross spending is on charitable services.
American Civil Liberties Union
The mission of the ACLU is to preserve all of constitutional protections and guarantees relating to First Amendment rights, including the freedom to practice religion and the freedom not to have religion rammed down our throats, equal protection, due process, and right to privacy.
United Nations Children’s Fund
UNICEF mobilizes political will and material resources to help countries, particularly developing countries, ensure a “first call for children” and to build their capacity to form appropriate policies and deliver services for children and their families. UNICEF provides emergency and disaster relief.
Doctors without Borders
Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) is an international independent medical humanitarian organization that delivers emergency aid to people affected by armed conflict, epidemics, natural and man-made disasters, and exclusion from health care in nearly 70 countries.
AI’s vision is of a world in which every person enjoys all of the human rights enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other international human rights standards.
In pursuit of this vision, AI’s mission is to undertake research and action focused on preventing and ending grave abuses of the rights to physical and mental integrity, freedom of conscience and expression, and freedom from discrimination, within the context of its work to promote all human rights.
Oxfam International is a confederation of 12 organizations working together with over 3,000 partners in more than 100 countries to find lasting solutions to poverty, suffering and injustice. The Oxfams operate in over 100 countries worldwide working with local partners to alleviate poverty and injustice.
The Nature Conservancy
The Nature Conservancy is a leading international, nonprofit organization dedicated to preserving the diversity of life on Earth. An environmental group that protects natural habitats and the wildlife within them. Focuses on “science-based” initiatives.
Population Connection is the national grassroots population organization that educates young people and advocates progressive action to stabilize world population at a level that can be sustained by Earth’s resources. Works against faith-based policies that are supported by the Religious Right.
DefCon: Campaign to Defend the Constitution
DefCon is an online grassroots movement combating the growing power of the religious right. It includes a blog on religious freedom issues, action alerts, and in-depth articles on scientific, religious, and legal issues of the day.
The SEED foundation
National nonprofit that establishes urban public boarding schools to prepare students from underserved communities for success in college.
Project Peanut Butter
Project Peanut Butter is a therapeutic feeding program for malnourished children in Malawi and Sierra Leone, on the continent of Africa. It was founded by Professor Mark Manary, M.D., a pediatrician at St. Louis Children’s Hospital and a professor of pediatric medicine at Washington University School of Medicine.
Electronic Frontiers Foundation
When our freedoms in the networked world come under attack, the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is the first line of defense. Blending the expertise of lawyers, policy analysts, activists, and technologists, EFF achieves significant victories on behalf of consumers and the general public. EFF fights for freedom primarily in the courts, bringing and defending lawsuits even when that means taking on the US government or large corporations.
Mercy Corps exists to alleviate suffering, poverty and oppression by helping people build secure, productive and just communities.
Our programs serve people who have been economically, politically, or otherwise marginalized. We change our program approach to relate to their culture and circumstances, reaching out in very different ways, for example, to nomads in Tibet, women in Tanzania, or indigenous Mayans in Guatemala. Our aim is to build a bridge of compassion between our donors and the people we serve — people around the world who have the fewest resources.
International Peace Institute
The International Peace Institute (IPI) formerly International Peace Academy is an independent, international institution dedicated to promoting the prevention and settlement of armed conflict between and within states through policy research and development.
On a bible-realated note, have you stoned any gays today?
on 13 Jul 2009 at 2:39 pm 14.Cheddar said …
As well, we don’t attach strings. I have never forced anyone into christianity through any relief efforts by Christians.
That could be because you’ve never contributed.
That is just a lie.
About the strings or you in particular?
Strings are not attached. We share about the Good news of Jesus Christ with everyone because we care about the eternity of each individual. We treat the felt needs while meeting the biggest need just as Jesus did.
Did you just contradict yourself? Those people obviously didn’t need your jesus until you xians decided they did and fucked up Africa.
on 13 Jul 2009 at 3:51 pm 15.Chip E said …
All the charities you listed are not atheist. You may not realize but secular does not equal atheist. Please provide an atheist based charity. As a matter of fact, a huge number of christians work for the Red Cross.
Second who are you to determine what people need? You do not have a corner on the market on truth. As far as I am concerned, an atheist helps a person but allows them to go to hell. We additionally deal with spiritual helps. When a Christian helps, we treat them just as Jesus would. As a matter of record, I became a Christian when the Salvation aided my family when I was a boy. Therefore your accusations I know to be lies.
Since you make accusations about forced conversion, I know you would want to provide proof. And I know you wouldn’t use an atheist to provide such testimony. I have been to 8 different countries providing humanitarian aid and have never seen it. I look forward to you validating your argument.
You both essentially are haters. If you were reasonable individuals you would see how and admit your fellow atheist is spewing hatred as evidenced by the post of Xenon.
on 14 Jul 2009 at 5:49 pm 16.Cheddar said …
You stoned any gays today?
on 14 Jul 2009 at 5:51 pm 17.Cheddar said …
Notice the lack of Jesus juice in those?
I find it funny you want to decide now to find a difference between atheism and secular. Semantics only mean something when you want them to, I guess.
on 14 Jul 2009 at 5:53 pm 18.Cheddar said …
“Yes, Chip, anybody who tells you you are wrong is a hater. That is exactly how that works … hater. (See what I did there?)”
Did you see this, Chip? I don’t think you have.
Also, xenon is apparently not an atheist (like you said he was) or christian or agnostic by his own admission. I wonder if he is a Scientologist?
on 15 Jul 2009 at 12:16 am 19.Chip E said …
You are such an angry young man Cheddar. If I am wrong please provide my quote and the proof I am wrong. You didn’t even prove your other accusations I pointed out so I doubt you will deal with this one either.
Just calm down and try to hold a discussion without trying to insult someone. It doesn’t work it only makes your position moot.
on 16 Jul 2009 at 12:27 pm 20.Cheddar said …
Chip, you really are a fucking idiot.
Stop changing the discussion to how “angry” I am. There wasn’t an insult in my previous posts, but there is now, dumbass. I pointed it out to you, but you just don’t like to read obviously. I can’t help you if you can’t help yourself. Stop being a retard and read.
Admit it, you lost. Go stone a gay like your book tells you to do.
Chip, can you see through my monitor? What makes you think I’m not typing this out as calmly as possible? You can’t, can you? I thought as much. Calling me angry does not make your argument any better; all it does is show you can’t debate worth crap by attacking me.
on 16 Jul 2009 at 3:32 pm 21.Xenon said …
More like a complete melt down. Maybe it should be melted-cheese.