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Christianity Admin on 17 Nov 2006 02:25 am

Baptist group poised to bar gay-friendly churches

Baptist group poised to bar gay-friendly churches

From the article:

Membership in the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina will hinge on one single issue — whether a church accepts gays — if a bylaw change is approved by delegates at the convention’s annual meeting in Greensboro this week.   

Those churches that “affirm, approve, endorse, promote, support or bless homosexual behavior” will be excluded from membership, according to the proposed bylaw approved in September by the state convention’s board of directors. There is no other requirement for membership aside from donating money.

Proponents of the change say it is needed to counter an aggressive cultural effort to redefine homosexuality as an acceptable lifestyle. The measure would go further than many Protestant denominations in making opposition to homosexuality the only test for membership.

Why is it that Baptists do not love their neighbors, as Jesus commands? Christians ignore Jesus all the time, but why?

15 Responses to “Baptist group poised to bar gay-friendly churches”

  1. on 20 Nov 2006 at 4:49 pm 1.Dave said …

    Homophobia is no different than any other kind of bigotry.

  2. on 22 Nov 2006 at 9:04 am 2.Charlie said …

    The desire for anything that is greater than the desire for a close relationship with God is the problem. The lawyer asked Jesus to name the greatest Commandment. Jesus said to love God with all your heart mind and spirit, emcompassing your physical emotional and spritual being. Jesus gave equal weight to love your neighbor as yourself. Some are controlled by emotions (A good God would not…(fill in the blank)). Some are controlled by spirituality(insert the fad du jour). And some are controlled by the physical. All are a form of self worship. If we love our neighbor, we loving encourage them to love and serve God in ways that are pleasing.

  3. on 26 Nov 2006 at 2:31 pm 3.humor is alive and well! said …

    Mr. whywontgodhealamputees.com

    You are not learned. Your website is ignorant.
    Please work on the 4 virtues you may attain yourself. Perhaps working on those will help you, by God’s grace, have the other 3.

  4. on 30 Nov 2006 at 6:01 pm 4.joe said …

    well written, well thought out, but with no real knowledge of scripture. you seem open minded, read
    “The Case For Faith” it addresses much of your logic.
    look at the Bible in its full context. it is given to us as the unified, complete revelation of God.
    you cannot compartmentalize the passages.

  5. on 30 Nov 2006 at 11:02 pm 5.wesley said …

    If this site weren’t so pitiful, it would be humorous. Its publisher is so deluded that correcting his errors, illusions, straw arguments, etc. would take more time than I probably have on the Earth. And the most entertaining part is, he doesn’t ask for much: simply to be able to dictate to the Master of All; the Uncaused Cause; the Ancient of Days. I once asked a similar question of God regarding such healings (re amputees). The answer was a direct, plain, simple, quiet and supremely authoritative yet gentle knowing in the conscience of my soul and came in the form of another question (and more, omitted here): “Do you possess the faith for this?” I had to admit that I did not. Moving the “hand of God” is not a game or a formulaic endeavor. God does as He pleases and the reason should be obvious. Prayer involves more than a petition/request. It involves aligning the request with the will of God, trusting God that it shall be done and other such elements. Throwing a gauntlet at God’s feet, so to speak, will undoubtedly produce nothing good. Why not just be the fool described in Proverbs? (The fool saith in his heart: ‘There is no God’?) Maybe the publisher of this trash already is an atheist, I didn’t bother to find out but he or she certainly sounds like one. And why not: after all, we can ask “enlightened” and “intellignet” questions such as those posed by Sagan, Russell, ETAL, such as: ‘Why can the Christian claim that God always existed but will not allow for the ‘cosmos’ to have existed without beginning?’. Such questions serve to expose the profound ignorance of the questioner, evidencing the fact that he/she has given little thoguht to what can be logically deduced without reliance upon any faith at all. While faith is necessary for redemption from deviation from God’s will, and the consequences of such deviation, faith is not necessary to know that a non-physical entity brought the physical realm into existence from nothing else tangible, thus the Proverbs vituperative comment. I seriously doubt that Dobson ETAL are hiding from the publisher of this site. (Talk about flattering yourself). If someone like me can understand and give a solid explanation for, for example, the Isaiah quote and the OT quote regarding the Hiivites and the other unrepentant tribes, then in a debate, Dobson and his ilk would plow over the writer of the tripe found on this blog like General Schwarzkopf charged through Kuwait.

  6. on 30 Nov 2006 at 11:05 pm 6.wesley said …


    1 intelligent
    2 thought

  7. on 03 Dec 2006 at 5:27 am 7.Olly said …

    You can’t compmartmentalize the passages? Then why do I see people holding the sign John 3:16? Are they not compartmentalizing the passages? Of course I have no idea if any people writing here have ever done that but it seems to be an all too often occurring trend for people defending the bible and quoting desirable passages from it to then criticize others who are doing something with different goals in mind. If I were to quote a passage which either doesn’t make sense or promotes violence from the bible, I am sure I would get the argument that it was either a mistranslation or taken out of context. In fact this happens quite often. Being a translator, I do know the problems with translating a prose, and the possiblities for errors to creep in over the vast amount of time that it has been in publication is great. However, I have never heard an atheist or person of another religious faith ever complain that it must have been a mistranslation when there are passages in the bible which promote something desirable such as “loving thy neighbor”.

  8. on 05 Dec 2006 at 10:21 pm 8.Jesse Santoyo said …

    It is amazing to see how far someone will go to do this. it makes me laugh at all the different scenerios. “YOU”, whoever you are, have gone the extra mile to make people believe that GOd doesn’t exist. You must feel really threatened by the existence of God and how it is so obvious in everything around us. From science to creation. How can God not exist? That is obsurd. I give it to you. it is far easier to not believe, serving God and believing is done in faith. God is real, God does answer prayers, and EVERYTHING works for good to those who love him. Ok, lets say God, heaven and Hell don’t exist, and you are right, its all a story made up, But what if it is ALL TRUE? You willing to take that chance? Don’t be silly. Seek the Lord and his righteousness while it still can be found. I give it to you though, to all of you. It takes alot of courage to not believe.
    much love in Him

  9. on 09 Dec 2006 at 3:18 am 9.wesley said …

    re: why do I see people holding the sign John 3:16?
    “God so oved the wolrd..” etc. may be plucked from context and used without problem because they do not run afoul of other verses or the spirit of the Bible; the Bible is a book that can be fully understood only by those for having the spirit of God, poured freely into those who love Him, accept His salvation and accept His Lordship; the Holy Spirit does not fill an unclean vessel and if you have not the salvation afforded you by Christ, you are unclean in a sense; God says “you will find me when you seek me with your heart soul and strength”; implicit in that is “mind”; it does not appear that the atheists posting here have used very much of their minds to search for God; because had they done so they would know what almost everyone else in the world knows intuitively, including the young child and the allegedly mentally handicapped, though they may not be able to express it as I am expressing it here; and that is, that God exists; God meaning a nonphysical, i.e. spirit being who is necessarily outside the bounds of the physical realm including time, space and matter, caused these to come into being from nothing physical and is able to perceive time at once, destroy matter and eliminate space; He is the Almighty, the Omniscient and Omnipotent Master of all, the Ancient of Days, the Everlasting One, the Great, I am; and needless to say, He is not always easy to understand.

  10. on 09 Dec 2006 at 3:19 am 10.wesley said …

    “God so loved the world..” etc.

  11. on 09 Dec 2006 at 3:39 am 11.wesley said …

    re: “God so loved the world..” etc. may be plucked from context and used without problem because they do not run afoul of other verses or the spirit of the Bible;

    This is not to imply that verses are in conflict. Rather, some verses, when stripped of their context are misconstrued. for example, many pluck a portion of an Old Testament verse (“…an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth…” and brandish it as a rationale for taking revenge when the passage containing the verse offers no such justification. On the contrary, for example, the Bible says: ” ‘Vengeance is Mine’, saith the Lord.”

  12. on 12 Dec 2006 at 9:49 am 12.Jonathan Moulin said …

    This is a great site. And about time!!!!
    Christians need be be confronted all the times because they represent a great danger to what little democracy we have. They believe in the great dictator in the sky and so at any time they could vote in a dictator even worst than George Bush if he or she used enough bible verses. Christians have no real sence of right or wrong because they don’t think critically… they just beleive. And what do they believe in a horrifying ugly concept of a god with a gun to your head. Do as I say worship me , tell me you love me or I’ll blow your brains out. Nice god.
    One of these blogers Jesse Santoya said “what if their really is heaven or hell? Are you going to take the chance.” So according to Jesse I could come to his house and put a gun to his head and force him to hang out with me day and night , tell me that he loves me, do whatever I say and this bafoon would think I am a great guy. Any ration person would try to escape and call the police to have me arrested. Not Jesse He’d run around and tell everyone what a great guy I am. So if there is a god like the one Jesse is so happy to promote then over half of his creation is going to burn in hell forever , but being in heaven with an asshole doesn’t sound like an attractive alternative . Either way your screwed. So you might as well have some fun while your on earth. Jonathan

  13. on 05 Jan 2007 at 6:25 pm 13.Samantha said …


    Sometimes a scream is better than a thesis

  14. on 16 Jan 2007 at 1:35 pm 14.Madison said …


    Reality continues to ruin my life

  15. on 21 Jan 2009 at 3:17 pm 15.poopy joe said …

    Christians don’t beliee that u fuck tard they belive if ur a bad person bad thngs happen to u in the work of god but if u treat others the wat u wanted to be treated than ull be rewarded in heaven with eternal peace how bout before u diss a whole world wide religion do some fucking reasearch u again fucktart

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