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Christianity Johnson on 10 Apr 2009 12:20 am

The insanity of religion

The general insanity of religious followers is expressed succinctly in this image:

But then there are the religious followers who take it a little further. Like this mother, who killed her son and herself at a shooting range because she feared that the end of the world is coming:

Where did she get the insane idea that the “end of the world is coming”? From her religion.

If you listen to any religious person talk about his or her religion, you can detect varying levels of insanity. Get on YouTube and look at religious videos. Several examples:

1) Insane 1

2) Insane 2

3) Insane 3

28 Responses to “The insanity of religion”

  1. on 10 Apr 2009 at 3:02 am 1.Subjectsofinterest said …

    Ummm, didnt she have a mental illness? What information do you have that supports your statement that it was her religion and not her depression that lead her to this?

  2. on 10 Apr 2009 at 8:08 am 2.Danny said …

    “didnt she have a mental illness?”

    Yes, it’s called religion.

  3. on 10 Apr 2009 at 11:02 am 3.Lou said …

    Sad really, The Bible wars of false prophets but so many re easily led into foolishness,

    House wouldn’t exactly be my authority on happiness and a life of fulfillment but he is entertaining.

    Lou

  4. on 10 Apr 2009 at 2:08 pm 4.Lou said …

    Ignore me and my fat mouth. I just make up stuff that doesn’t address anything anybody says. I’m still willing to go to the forum and not waste people’s time!

    Lou

  5. on 10 Apr 2009 at 4:03 pm 5.Anonymouse said …

    Hallelujah, Hallelujah,
    Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah

    For the Lord God omnipotent reigneth
    Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah

    For the Lord God omnipotent reigneth
    Hallelujah

  6. on 10 Apr 2009 at 4:59 pm 6.Lou said …

    Hey now! You best not be trolling! God doesn’t like it when you praise him with the intent of ticking other people off!

  7. on 10 Apr 2009 at 9:22 pm 7.Subjectsofinterest said …

    All amusing comments. Very appropriate guys. This sort of commentary does wonders for us atheists cause.

    I return to the question, what evidence is there that this was triggered by religious beliefs rather than her mental illness.

  8. on 10 Apr 2009 at 9:27 pm 8.Anonymous said …

    Do you think her religious beliefs helped?

  9. on 10 Apr 2009 at 11:28 pm 9.Subjectsofinterest said …

    That was not my question. Im sure that is likely however this is hardly the point given you dont necessarily need to be religious to think the end of the world is coming. Depression is enough. This posting implies it was religion over her mental illness that lead to this horrific act. Are you of the opinion that because a religious person did something good that it was just their religion that made them do this? Sort of ruins the idea that we do good for evolutionary reasons. Im just wondering what information lead him to say this is all.

  10. on 11 Apr 2009 at 6:17 am 10.helen said …

    People should not assume that mental illness and religion are conected. I know many people who suffer from mental illness(myself included) who are not religious fanatics. It is a bit of an insult to the mentally ill.
    For all we know the woman in this film could have a serious mental health problem.If this is so she should not be mocked and made fun of. I mean you would’nt mock someone with a heart condition or diabetis would you.
    It is fair to say that some people suffering from mental illness do obsess about religion, but they can obsess about other things too. They can believe that the CIA are spying on them,or that people are trying to poison them. Mentally ill people can become obsessed with the universe and the planets etc. These poor people suffer terribly and should not be made a laughing stock. It is not the religion that causes the mental illness, it is the illness that causes the obsession. People are so ignorant about this disease one of the worst of all diseases.
    They would soon change their tune if they had an episode of madness themselves. Then they would see how unfunny it is.

  11. on 12 Apr 2009 at 6:28 am 11.Subjectsofinterest said …

    Here here. I love what this guy is doing but nobody is free from review and criticism. It was a stupid post and some of the comments are void of any form of critical thinking.

    I should return the question to anonymous – do you this bloggers non-belief has helped him reach a logical and reasoned conclusion to this womans shooting and suicide?

  12. on 13 Apr 2009 at 4:07 pm 12.See in the light said …

    God is first in your life brothers and sisters.

    Satan stir dissention.. He will blind, confuse and will use everyone to distance you from the truth.

    Religion is a belief that is ministered by men to their best of ability and understanding. You as individual have been given the understanding to know right and wrong.

  13. on 13 Apr 2009 at 6:57 pm 13.GotMooo said …

    “God is first in your life brothers and sisters.”

    Not in my life.

    “Satan stir dissention.. He will blind, confuse and will use everyone to distance you from the truth.”

    Nice rationalization for why we don’t always agree. You sound like an open-minded, reasonable kind of person.

    “Religion is a belief that is ministered by men to their best of ability and understanding.”

    Well that explains why there are so many religions, denominations, and sects. I believe that if there was actually a “one true religion”, it would be obvious, and we wouldn’t all disagree so much. I’m sure at this point you think, “Oh the devil just made all these religions to trick you” or something along that line. What a wonderful way to avoid reasoning. If reasoning IS of the devil, than I’d rather go with him! God gave me a brain to use it, you know?

    “You as individual have been given the understanding to know right and wrong.”

    I assume you mean God gave us our moral code. But morality doesn’t come from God, it comes from our own intelligence, reasoning, and empathy. There are Christians (in the south particularly), that believe that without God, you can’t be moral. Then why are so many godless people living moral, decent lives? The prison population is overflowing with more Christians than atheists (even by per capita).

    Clicky

  14. on 14 Apr 2009 at 2:27 am 14.See in the light said …

    GotMooo,

    “God is first in your life brothers and sisters.”

    Not in my life.

    God knows you even if you don’t.

    “Satan stir dissention.. He will blind, confuse and will use everyone to distance you from the truth.”

    Nice rationalization for why we don’t always agree. You sound like an open-minded, reasonable kind of person.

    Well Thank you. I try to be a lot of those things with Gods help.

    “Religion is a belief that is ministered by men to their best of ability and understanding.”

    Well that explains why there are so many religions, denominations, and sects. I believe that if there was actually a “one true religion”, it would be obvious, and we wouldn’t all disagree so much. I’m sure at this point you think, “Oh the devil just made all these religions to trick you” or something along that line. What a wonderful way to avoid reasoning. If reasoning IS of the devil, than I’d rather go with him! God gave me a brain to use it, you know?

    Repent Brother! Don’t stay in the dark side.

    “You as individual have been given the understanding to know right and wrong.”

    I assume you mean God gave us our moral code. But morality doesn’t come from God, it comes from our own intelligence, reasoning, and empathy. There are Christians (in the south particularly), that believe that without God, you can’t be moral. Then why are so many godless people living moral, decent lives? The prison population is overflowing with more Christians than atheists (even by per capita).

    God gave morality as a law the Ten Commandments so your intelligence, reasoning, and empathy can observe and follow it as so chosen with your God given free will. As for prisoners, christians or any other beliefs it is their free will that got them there.

  15. on 14 Apr 2009 at 5:20 am 15.GotMooo said …

    “God gave morality as a law the Ten Commandments so your intelligence, reasoning, and empathy can observe and follow it as so chosen with your God given free will. As for prisoners, christians or any other beliefs it is their free will that got them there.”

    What do you think about God’s take on slavery?

    When a slave-owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives for a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner’s property. [Exodus, chapter 21]

    More…

    God advocates slavery. If you say the OT doesn’t apply anymore (or portions), then bare in mind that Jesus never abolished it.

  16. on 14 Apr 2009 at 12:55 pm 16.See in the light said …

    Good morning GotMooo,
    I see you read the Holy Bible and have a lot of understanding of it.
    In modern world we the don’t call it slavery it’s called employment.
    I’m sure you work for someone and put your time into work.

    This is my last post, please keep on repenting and when you come to a greater understanding of being in the light look to get Baptized as a Christian.

  17. on 14 Apr 2009 at 1:44 pm 17.Anonymous said …

    It’s not called employment. (Especially since you can quit at any time!) Stop making excuses. It wasn’t even funny as a joke.

  18. on 14 Apr 2009 at 2:49 pm 18.ANONYMOUS said …

    Anonymous, LACKING individuality, LACKING distinction, LACKING RECOGNIZABILITY. HOW THIS FOR A JOKE….

  19. on 14 Apr 2009 at 3:03 pm 19.Anonymous said …

    I’m reminded by an ancient Chinese proverb:

    “He who throws the first punch admits he lost the argument.” ‘Punch’ is (orcan be) interchangeable with pointless namecalling, I think.

    The difference between slavery and employment is that 1) can quit at any time (already mentioned) 2) it’s VOLUNTARY 3) for gain, not to be had by slaves. Do you at least have an understanding of basic economy? Admit it: “God promotes slavery.”

  20. on 14 Apr 2009 at 8:57 pm 20.Lou said …

    I provide this:

    “The Bible does not specifically condemn the practice of slavery. It gives instructions on how slaves should be treated (Deuteronomy 15:12-15; Ephesians 6:9; Colossians 4:1), but does not outlaw the practice altogether. Many see this as the Bible condoning all forms of slavery. What many people fail to understand is that slavery in the Biblical times was very different from the slavery that was practiced in the past few centuries in many parts of the world. The slavery in the Bible was not based on race. People were not enslaved because of their nationality or the color of their skin. In Bible times, slavery was more of a social status. People sold themselves as slaves when they could not pay their debts or provide for their family. In New Testament times, sometimes doctors, lawyers, even politicians were slaves of someone else. Some people actually chose to be slaves so as to have all their needs provided for by their master.

    The slavery of the past few centuries was often based exclusively on skin color. Black people were considered slaves because of their nationality – many slave owners truly believed black people to be “inferior human beings” to white people. The Bible most definitely does condemn race-based slavery. Consider the slavery the Hebrews experienced when they were in Egypt. The Hebrew were slaves, not by choice, but because they were Hebrews (Exodus 13:14). The plagues God poured out on Egypt demonstrate how God feels about racial slavery (Exodus 7-11). So, yes, the Bible does condemn some forms of slavery. At the same time, the Bible does seem to allow for other forms of slavery. The key issue is that the slavery the Bible allowed for in no way resembled the racial slavery that plagued our world in the past few centuries.

    Another crucial point is that the purpose of the Bible is to point the way to salvation, not to reform society. The Bible often approaches issues from the inside-out. If a person experiences the love, mercy, and grace of God, receiving His salvation – God will reform his soul, changing the way he thinks and acts. A person who has experienced God’s gift of salvation and freedom from the slavery of sin, as God reforms his soul, he will realize that enslaving another human being is wrong. A person who has truly experienced God’s grace will in turn be gracious towards others. That would be the Bible’s prescription for ending slavery.”

    Anonymous, you lose again.

  21. on 14 Apr 2009 at 9:20 pm 21.Gern Blansten said …

    Lou, I respect your passionate attempt to defend your bible. I’m sure it’s sort of embarrassing to rationalize such a pile of excrement.

  22. on 15 Apr 2009 at 7:23 am 22.satcomguy said …

    Lou wrote:
    “The Bible most definitely does condemn race-based slavery. Consider the slavery the Hebrews experienced when they were in Egypt. The Hebrew were slaves, not by choice, but because they were Hebrews (Exodus 13:14). The plagues God poured out on Egypt demonstrate how God feels about racial slavery (Exodus 7-11). So, yes, the Bible does condemn some forms of slavery. At the same time, the Bible does seem to allow for other forms of slavery. The key issue is that the slavery the Bible allowed for in no way resembled the racial slavery that plagued our world in the past few centuries.”

    Frankly, I always thought that god was angry because it was his chosen people that had been enslaved, not as any sort of wholesale condemnation of race-based slavery. Besides, I am not so sure that the color of the Africans skin had all that much to do with it — it was just the obvious way to identify the “inferior races” that could be exploited as slaves. I think that they would have been enslaved even if they were white as long as their tribal, “savage” lifestyle was the same.

  23. on 18 Apr 2009 at 4:14 am 23.Luke said …

    Where the hell do you get the informaation that she thought the world was going to end? hmm?? i’ve read and watched alot on this story and not one reporter says anything about her believing the world is going to end. In fact it does say that she was mentally ill, possible alcoholic and depressed.. But nothing about end of the world. U know why its says nothing about that, its because you are either a person who likes to poke away at others to anger them, like you have me, which is sick. Or your a person who HAS to be so right that you choose to make up things to prove it. Your a sick sick person and woe to those who beleive themselves so right that they must pick away at others who are happy

  24. on 18 Apr 2009 at 4:25 am 24.Anonymous said …

    Someone needs to ‘hit rewind’ a bit, eh?

  25. on 19 Apr 2009 at 11:43 pm 25.Hermes said …

    A question for you Christians about your deity and your prime demon.

    Why can’t your deity handle one demon?

  26. on 20 Apr 2009 at 1:59 am 26.Anonymous said …

    Because then they’d have noone to blame things on.

  27. on 20 Apr 2009 at 10:54 pm 27.Hermes said …

    Anonymous, you’re probably right.

    Christians: Do you agree? Is your deity not taking care of your demons because the blame has to be be placed on someone?

  28. on 21 Apr 2009 at 12:26 am 28.Anonymous said …

    Lou, you gonna reply? You seemed to have miss this one.

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