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Christianity &Politics emodude on 27 Jan 2007 01:17 pm

State Constitutions that Discriminate Against Atheists

Here’s a link from the GodLess Geeks that list out seven examples from state constitutions that discriminate, and dare I say illegally, against Atheist candidates running for public office.

State Constututions that Discriminate Against Atheists

The separation of church and state is a right guaranteed by the First Amendment to the Constitution that states are obligated to comply with.  How can any country claim to have Freedom of Religion, and yet laws such as these still exist on the books?  Where does this fear originate from that states feel they must protect themselves against Atheist candidates?

21 Responses to “State Constitutions that Discriminate Against Atheists”

  1. on 31 Jan 2007 at 12:07 pm 1.painperdu said …

    We need to get Atheists to run for office in those states so that we may challenge these laws.

  2. on 31 Jan 2007 at 1:20 pm 2.Mushinronjya said …

    You bet man.
    Just like they have gays in office, we need atheists.. and it’s about time.
    This world is so ancient in mind.

  3. on 01 Feb 2007 at 6:17 am 3.Anfauglir said …

    Just wanted to say that it looks like Pensylvania is actually on the side of the atheist…

    “No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth.”

    Or, just because someone believes in God does not mean we will bar them from office. Not so much a fear of atheists, but a note that (although they may be bonkers), theists will still be allowed to hold office.

  4. on 01 Feb 2007 at 11:39 am 4.Mushinronjya said …

    Hah, I’m not sure about that wording. :)

  5. on 02 Feb 2007 at 4:37 am 5.mattstarrs said …

    What’s not to be sure about? It’s plain english. Is it just that it doesn’t support your cause and that yet another atheist argument is built on false premises?

  6. on 02 Feb 2007 at 10:04 am 6.Mushinronjya said …

    Matts…

    Don’t waste our time with your attempt at debating anything. You’ve already shown to be incapable of logical discourse.

  7. on 02 Feb 2007 at 5:02 pm 7.emodude said …

    mattstarrs said: “…argument is built on false premises”

    A Christian calls the kettle black yet again…

  8. on 03 Feb 2007 at 4:08 am 8.Mushinronjya said …

    I don’t understand where these theists get off trying to turn the table every chance they get, thinking that somehow they are going to be or sound more right? Are they so stupid.. they think that just because they really want to believe in their imaginary friends, that anything is worth it, even the truth? That it’s ok to not recognize that logic is necessary? They somehow are brainwashed to think that they can dream up any fucking reasoning they want to, that they pull out of their ass? What kind of brain do people have if that’s their reality? That’s just messed up.

  9. on 03 Feb 2007 at 6:36 am 9.mattstarrs said …

    Wow. There’s some solid discourse. You two geniuses related?

  10. on 03 Feb 2007 at 6:50 am 10.mattstarrs said …

    Mushy said:
    “Don’t waste our time with your attempt at debating anything. You’ve already shown to be incapable of logical discourse.”

    Au Contraire!

    Where is this show? All I see is a very comprehensive display of the logical falicies, lack of evidence, and dimwitted bias that you have posted . . . again and again and again and again!

    Shall I remind you of the twenty something requests for you to back up your belief that “Education brings peace” with one single piece of evidence . . . yet this request still goes unanswered.

    Or how about I remind you of the MySpace post you set to “friends only” when I exposed your illogical sexist position on women and contraception, and how you then denied that you had any such content on your site in one post, and then in your next post you admitted that it existed and that you had removed it from public scrutiny.

    Or how about when you are referred by other opponents to view material that contradicts your point of view you just refuse to even consider it.

    Of course there is always the way that you resort to obscenities when it becomes clear that you have been outwitted.

    No, your concern is not that I am wasting your time. Your concern is that I have effectively shown time and time again that you have nothing to offer, and what you do tender is so severely flawed that only a fool that was already given a similar position would consider it worth reading.

    You sir, are a bigot, a liar, and a hypocrite.

    I don’t mind pointing it out, It is a simple task that even my children could perform.

    So I say again: “What’s not to be sure about? It’s plain english. Is it just that it doesn’t support your cause and that yet another atheist argument is built on false premises?”

  11. on 03 Feb 2007 at 6:52 am 11.mattstarrs said …

    Emodude said:
    “A Christian calls the kettle black yet again… “

    Well, at least you and I are in agreement that the kettle is indeed black!

  12. on 03 Feb 2007 at 9:46 am 12.Mushinronjya said …

    matts said:
    “Where is this show? All I see is a very comprehensive display of the logical falicies, lack of evidence, and dimwitted bias that you have posted . . . again and again and again and again!”

    That’s because you wouldn’t know logic and reasoning if it came, slapped you upside the head, and banged you all night long. But it’s fun to watch you squirm in the meantime, I suppose.

    “Shall I remind you of the twenty something requests for you to back up your belief that “Education brings peace” with one single piece of evidence . . . yet this request still goes unanswered.”

    The question is irrelevant to my statement.
    You still don’t get it, not surprising.

    “You sir, are a bigot, a liar, and a hypocrite.”

    I’m honest, blunt, and logical.
    You have posited imaginary friends that you will not defend with logic.
    Who is the one that’s a liar?
    Who’s the hypocrite?
    Sorry bro, but you just don’t ever come across right to anyone here with all of your fallacies and word playing.

    You’re a total idiot.

  13. on 03 Feb 2007 at 5:14 pm 13.mattstarrs said …

    Once again Mushy resorts to insults and obscenities, but his post lacks any substance.

    You say:
    “But it’s fun to watch you squirm in the meantime, I suppose.”

    Yet you have never asked a question I could not answer, nor have you managed to cast credible doubt on anything I have stated. You on the other hand have failed to answer every question and been demonstrated to be a complete fool and very dishonest on many occasions.

    Who is doing the squirming?

    You ask:
    “Who is the one that’s a liar?
    Who’s the hypocrite?”

    It is clear that you are the one.

    You assert that:
    “but you just don’t ever come across right to anyone here”

    But as I have already pointed out in previous posts, Loi P, a fellow atheist of yours has expressed complete agreement with my assessment of you and your pathetic loser practices. Apart from general expressions of disdain for Christian like the one above by emodude you really have nothing to suggest that anyone supports your assertions that there are people that actually agree with your idiotic and unsupported obfuscation by allegation.

    Sorry for using such big words, but it has been good for me to see you begin using words that you have learned from my posts.

    Squirm litle worm, squirm!

  14. on 03 Feb 2007 at 5:17 pm 14.mattstarrs said …

    Oh yeah, sorry about that. I got caught up in your obfuscation. So getting back to the point:

    “So I say again: “What’s not to be sure about? It’s plain english. Is it just that it doesn’t support your cause and that yet another atheist argument is built on false premises?”

  15. on 03 Feb 2007 at 5:18 pm 15.mattstarrs said …

    Answer the question!

    I dare you!

    Just answer the question for once!!!!!!

  16. on 03 Feb 2007 at 8:24 pm 16.Mushinronjya said …

    I already answered your question.
    You continue to ask for an answer I have already given many, many times over.

    You’re thick, stupid, and nobody takes you seriously on this board because you’re a typical xian moron.

    But, don’t think for a minute that we don’t appreciate the entertainment. We love a good kick-bag game.

  17. on 04 Feb 2007 at 12:31 am 17.mattstarrs said …

    Then humour me.

    Where have you answered the question:
    “So I say again: “What’s not to be sure about? It’s plain english. Is it just that it doesn’t support your cause and that yet another atheist argument is built on false premises?”

    A simple cut and paste will do.

    Stop lying and fess up.

    If you think you answered it by saying:
    “Don’t waste our time with your attempt at debating anything. You’ve already shown to be incapable of logical discourse.”
    get yourself either a dictionary or a third grade education and try again.

    Answer the question, unless of course you are admitting that the answer proves you are the thick, stupid moron you keep asserting others think I am (not one of them has said this, so where did you get that idea? Did you just make it up like everything else you say?).

    Your a loser, Ted Peterson from Mesquite Texas.

  18. on 04 Feb 2007 at 12:03 pm 18.Mushinronjya said …

    Matts.. you have nothing, my friend.
    Just stop trying to get somewhere, because you keep going backwards instead. Admit defeat, hang up your imaginary friends, and live life.

  19. on 04 Feb 2007 at 3:07 pm 19.mattstarrs said …

    So you admit by default that what I have said is correct and that you were simply rejecting a statement because it contradicted your beliefs . . . yet again!

  20. on 04 Feb 2007 at 5:09 pm 20.Mushinronjya said …

    Um, no.

    You are not being coherent.
    I don’t have beliefs.
    I made no assertion of which I did not explain.

    Get a clue.
    Grow up.

  21. on 28 Aug 2008 at 9:42 am 21.lazyike67 said …

    Um How can you discriminate against someone who has nothing to discriminate against? After all Atheism is NOT a religion therefore it can not be discriminated against.

    Now unless you want to declare Atheism a religion.
    Then you can claim your religious beliefs have been denied you.

    HOWEVER there is a problem. The Second the court recognizes Atheism a religious belief then states
    may BAN it from public display & remove it from our classrooms. IOW say bye-bye to Evolution & Darwin Mythology.

    Oh before anyone misquotes the fist amendment again
    let me remind everyone the FULL passage:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE THEREOF.

    Where you “Thought Free” folks seem to forget is
    this was meant to prevent the US from becoming an Iran, Soviet Republic, or Vatican City. It was NEVER intended to make this a Marxist/Leninist Atheist Nation.

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