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Christianity Johnson on 18 Feb 2009 12:57 am

Liberty “University”

Liberty University disputing evolution

On a recent Tuesday, a dozen or so Liberty University students are in the midst of a lecture in one of their required courses, creation studies.

This is an advanced section of the course, and many of the students are biology majors. Neuroscientist David DeWitt, their professor, leads a lecture on natural selection.

He draws on an example from the documentary film “March of the Penguins” that shows female penguins journeying to find food, and then a seal singling out one to attack.

“Which penguin gets eaten?” he asks. “The one that’s genetically inferior, or the one that’s in the wrong place at the wrong time?”

That element of chance, he argues, begins to unravel the idea of natural selection, or “survival of the fittest,” a key mechanism in the theory of evolution.

At the front of the class, a slide on DeWitt’s presentation displays a biblical passage from Ecclesiastes 9:11.

Dawkins at Liberty:

Liberty University Website

Founded in 1971, Liberty University is the world’s largest evangelical university, with over 30,000 students both on-campus and off-campus from all fifty states and over seventy countries around the world. We are committed to providing our students with the highest quality education in a distinctly Christian environment.

19 Responses to “Liberty “University””

  1. on 20 Feb 2009 at 12:17 am 1.walkie wawtmire said …

    Arguing against Creationism w/ a counter of Big Bang/Evolution is the same thing as arguing which Dallas Cowboy team is better: 1992 or 1993?

    It’s unproductive, impossible to prove or settle. Don’t do eeet. Please, nobody should not do eeet no more.

  2. on 26 Feb 2009 at 9:21 pm 2.DCKate said …

    He’s not at Liberty University in that clip. He’s at Randolph-Macon Woman’s College. Very different schools.

  3. on 22 Mar 2009 at 7:54 pm 3.anonymous said …

    …maybe you’ve got a point. On the other side there are a lot of good verses in the bible. So there will always be a discussion like that. Also the killing people thing which seems to be the main reason not to believe is only for those who don’t believe. Those who do will be saved. And btw, apart from weird asses like the kkk most christians don’t go killing people, since murder is a sin. I’m not saying you’re from, I’m only saying that you should let people free to believe what they want as long as it’s not hurting anyone else. I mean, christians will not judge you for not believing in God, the only thing they might do is try and convince you, but it’s your own choice and believing is something you do out of free will. However I must agree that the bible can be quite…contradictive sometimes, then again, the bible was written by men and not by God himself. Maybe they where just a bit…to exited
    May (imaginary) God bless you,
    lots of love

  4. on 22 Mar 2009 at 8:13 pm 4.Hermes said …

    Anonymous, Thomas Jefferson shortened the NT into what he called “The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth” aka “The Jefferson Bible”;


    In a letter to John Adams, Jefferson wrote;

    “I have performed this operation for my own use, by cutting verse by verse out of the printed book, and arranging the matter which is evidently his, and which is as easily distinguishable as diamonds in a dunghill. The result is an octavo of forty-six pages, of pure and unsophisticated doctrines.”

    I don’t think Mr. Jefferson went far enough, and I personally prefer other books (including a few that are from religious origins). By not shaping my world based on a single book or dogma — religious or secular — I am free to pick the best (as Jefferson attempted) and leave the rest.

    As for letting people be free to believe as they wish, that is the whole of the discussions here. Freedom of speech is a necessity — and that includes what others consider blasphemy of their own doctrines.

    What I am mostly interested in is a question that concerns me and should concern anyone who lives in a society with fervently religious people. As that is mainly Christians in my country, I have to ask the question this way when I talk with Christians;

    To the Christians I say: What are you doing to address the wrongs done in the name of Christianity by your fellow Christians?

    If enough Christians would address that question, I would have no concerns at all. Yet, not enough do…and people suffer and die because of it.

    Because of the lack of interest by most Christians, my main recourse is to address the religion itself — mainly the absurdity of it. To me, it is supernatural and superstitious, with large amounts of subservience, ignorance, and venom. No doubt there are diamonds in it, though the piles of dung that remain are often not suitable for crops as much as spreading salmonella and other diseases.

    If you wish to see my complete challenge to you (if you are a Christian) or your associates (if they are), I would be glad to oblige.

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