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Islam Admin on 01 Jan 2007 08:56 pm

Animal Sacrifices Maim 1,400 in Turkey

The title of the articles says a lot:

The first paragraph says even more:

Over a thousand Turks spent the first day of the Muslim feast of Eid al-Adha in emergency wards on Sunday after stabbing themselves or suffering other injuries while sacrificing startled animals.

Why are they sacrificing animals? They are performing “a ritual commemorating the biblical account of God’s provision of a ram for Abraham to sacrifice as he was about to slay his son.” The story of Abraham and his son is told in the Bible’s book of Genesis, chapter 22:

Some time later God tested Abraham. He said to him, “Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about.”

Early the next morning Abraham got up and saddled his donkey. He took with him two of his servants and his son Isaac. When he had cut enough wood for the burnt offering, he set out for the place God had told him about. On the third day Abraham looked up and saw the place in the distance. He said to his servants, “Stay here with the donkey while I and the boy go over there. We will worship and then we will come back to you.”

Abraham took the wood for the burnt offering and placed it on his son Isaac, and he himself carried the fire and the knife. As the two of them went on together, Isaac spoke up and said to his father Abraham, “Father?”

“Yes, my son?” Abraham replied.

“The fire and wood are here,” Isaac said, “but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?”

Abraham answered, “God himself will provide the lamb for the burnt offering, my son.” And the two of them went on together.

When they reached the place God had told him about, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. He bound his son Isaac and laid him on the altar, on top of the wood. Then he reached out his hand and took the knife to slay his son. But the angel of the LORD called out to him from heaven, “Abraham! Abraham!”

“Here I am,” he replied.

“Do not lay a hand on the boy,” he said. “Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.”

Do fables get any more ridiculous than this? Here the “perfect, all-knowing, all-loving creator of the universe” takes time out to tell a man to murder and then incinerate his only son. And then, this perfect, all-knowing being changes his mind. How many contradictions can we stack on top of each other in one small fable? Certainly this tale, which contains only 24 sentences, is shooting for the world record.

Yet here we are, 3,000 years later, and millions of Muslims are still sacrificing animals to this being and stabbing themselves in the process. What word do we use to describe this mentality?

If this “god” were to actually exist, what kind of psychotic monster must he be? Why in the world would any intelligent person on this planet “worship” such a repulsive, horrific being?

Oh yes… it’s because this “all-loving” being says that he will burn you in an unquenchable lake of fire for all eternity if you do not worship him. Praise the Lord!

If you are a Muslim or a Christian and you find yourself “worshipping” this horrific, mythological being, consider awakening your brain to the real world by visiting Whywontgodhealamputees.com.

17 Responses to “Animal Sacrifices Maim 1,400 in Turkey”

  1. on 02 Jan 2007 at 10:39 am 1.Jimson said …

    You really should read this article:

    The Agony of Abraham

    It says:

    “The story of Abraham being prepared to offer his son Isaac as a sacrifice in response to God’s command has been called “the profoundest personal experience in all the recorded history of the patriarchs”, our forefathers of the faith (Anchor Bible: Genesis, p164). This episode describes a fearful testing of Abraham’s faith. As we reread the story, we suffer with this man for whom God and his son are the two primary allegiances in his life. Yet, apparently, he must choose between them. What a terrible choice to have to make!

    Remember all that Isaac represented to Abraham – a son miraculously given in his old age, the potential for fulfilling God’s promise that Abraham would be the father of a great nation. Yet that fateful day came … the day that Abraham heard God say, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering (22:2).

    As we read the story, we agonize again with Abraham. The drama becomes more and more intense as each little detail is accomplished – getting up early in the morning, saddling the pack animal, giving orders to the servants, splitting the necessary wood, and journeying to the prescribed place. Probably very few words were spoken on the trip. The old man must have suffered greatly in his isolated agony.

    As the climax approaches, the pace of the story quickens. Abraham and Isaac go up ahead, leaving the servants behind. They construct an altar. Then, Isaac is tied to it. Abraham clutches the knife, and his hand is in midair when he is stopped from slaying his son. Another sacrifice is provided, and all of us are relieved … but nothing compared to the relief of Abraham – and, surely, of Isaac, as well!

    Abraham named the place, “The Lord will provide.” And, we remember, that had been a theme all through the story. That is what Abraham said to Isaac when the son first noticed that they had no animal to sacrifice. And then – wonderfully and with much relief – that is what did indeed happen. “The Lord will provide.”

    Now, as in many Bible stories, we sometimes get hung up on questions that are not central to the primary message. “Why would God do this?” probably is the most obvious one. But this story is not about God’s motives. Rather, the story deals with Abraham’s faith – and it indicates that faith quite graphically indeed. In addition, this faith of Abraham provides a preview of the faith of another father, in terms of his relationship with his son.

    Later on, God had such faith in human beings that He was willing to sacrifice His Son. God must have felt the agony of Abraham many times over. He must have watched in pain as the road of Jesus’ life led to the cross – his place of sacrifice. God must have suffered terribly as He saw His Son – His only Son – crucified. And perhaps God remembered, “The Lord will provide.” God did provide a sacrifice for the whole world.”

    If you understood the love of God you would understand Abraham’s story. Understand what the author is saying: “this story is not about God’s motives. Rather, the story deals with Abraham’s faith.”

  2. on 02 Jan 2007 at 11:10 am 2.Brian said …

    We understand that part of the story, what you neglected to comment on was why God would then require the sacrifice of a ram in order to please him. Perhaps you can explain to us why this all -powerful all-loving creator requires so much animal sacrifice throughout the old testament? And why would God require a human sacrifice in Jesus? It’s not necessary, and it’s disgusting, not admirable.

  3. on 03 Jan 2007 at 3:25 pm 3.Mattstarrs said …

    It’s totally neccessary – and it’s disgusting!

    The animal sacrifice was a type of that which was to come. The innocent dying for the guilty.

    If Christ never paid the just requirement of God’s law by willingly becoming a sacrificial lamb there would be no forgiveness of sins.

    The sacrifice needed to be without blemish (without sin) to be accepted. Are you without blemish? Of course not. None of us are. But Jesus was and was the only acceptable candidate for this role. If he didn’t love you enough to follow through with His passion you could never be forgiven in God’s eyes, as the law would stand as an eternal testament against you.

  4. on 03 Jan 2007 at 4:24 pm 4.Mushinronjya said …

    In that story, Jesus committed suicide.
    He could have avoided being tortured and killed – he did nothing. Thus, he committed suicide.

    And since he was supposed to be a god, who’s to say that he was able to feel anything at all? Maybe he would have had no pain at all, and it was just all a show so he would get a bunch of dumbasses to follow him.

    If I could get a bunch of unquestioning people to follow me, and I knew I could come back after dying, I’d do it too! Think of the bootay I would get.

    The Jesus story is such a joke. It’s just a story – no truth at all. Go read Peter Pan instead.

  5. on 03 Jan 2007 at 4:51 pm 5.Mattstarrs said …

    Ah yes! The resurrection!
    I didn’t tell the full story did I. But you are quite correct – Jesus did come back after dying. It seems however that Bootay wasn’t on His to do list. But that is the difference between He and we. He lacks an affection for carnal desires. That’s why he didn’t think clinging to life was more important than those He loves.

    And you do realise that using your logic that everyone that puts their life on the line for others (soliers, emergency services [think 9-11], etc) are suicidal and should be disdained?

    I disagree, but we learned something today . . .

  6. on 03 Jan 2007 at 11:01 pm 6.Mushinronjya said …

    Yes, the mythology says that Jesus came back after death. But please, it’s just a story. We know people don’t come back after dying. It’s not possible. So if you actually believe there *was* a Jesus, and he *did* come back after dying, then you’re quite gullible. I have a bridge to sell you, if you want.

    In the mythology, Jesus didn’t care about life because he knew he could live forever. There was no sacrifice. It’s a stupid story.

    No, my logic does not say that helping others is bad. Where you got that from, I don’t know. People put their lives on the line for other people, even though they know they could die. The mythology of Jesus is such that he knew he would live, so case in point – people who risk their lives for others are doing so with more honor than the fabled Jesus story.

    Sorry, but your attempt to try and apply what you think was my logic was disgusting. Do you always play with words? Oh wait, you have a position which can never be defended – I guess you have to.

    Yes, we learned that you still have no idea what you’re talking about, and that all you can do is play on words.

  7. on 04 Jan 2007 at 2:04 am 7.Mattstarrs said …

    So let me get this straight – you are saying that there is/was no Jesus of Nazereth?

    Wow.

    Not many people would try to argue that.

  8. on 04 Jan 2007 at 10:28 am 8.Mushinronjya said …

    Why should anyone believe that Jesus even existed as a person? Why wouldn’t many argue that? What the hell makes you think that he ever existed? You just assume shit, I guess, and think that that should be enough.. great logic!

  9. on 05 Jan 2007 at 6:40 pm 9.Mattstarrs said …

    This is my last one here too. But you obviously haven’t done your homework. The existence of Jesus of Nazareth is a very well documented fact. The historical record is not in contention. The only contention is over his claims and the claims of his followers.

    You don’t even know the most basic elements of that which you oppose.

  10. on 06 Jan 2007 at 11:54 am 10.Mushinronjya said …

    I’ve done my homework quite well, son. But you can assert something without sufficient evidence if you think it will make you look better.

    No, the existence of Jesus is not a “well documented fact”. Sorry.

    So you’re basically going to say that “Jesus existed”, and not provide *ANY EVIDENCE* whatsoever?! And you do this when you say “this will be my last post here”?!?! Oh how convenient!! What a tard you are. What a seriously deluded tard.

    What “historical record” are we speaking of? haha you fail to give anything at all.. not surprising, I suppose.

    Show me evidence of Jesus’ supposed existence.
    I’d love to see *any* at all.

    You say I don’t know something, you claim the opposite (a positive claim, for which the burden lies on you), and then you say nothing in defense!! Then you just go and claim I know nothing again when you’re done!!!

    bhahahahhaaha!

  11. on 11 Jan 2007 at 11:02 am 11.Pootatuck said …

    Hear me one, hear me all.

    I used to be an amputee. I lost a ‘limb’ in a freak accident while trying a position from the Kama Sutra (some of those positions are extremely dangerous if you’re with a big woman). So I prayed to the Flying Spaghetti Monster and I was healed!!!!

    If you are praying to Jesus, you are wasting your time. The FSM is the one true God. If you have faith, he will reach out and touch you with his Noodly Appendage. I dare you to prove me wrong.

  12. on 19 Jan 2007 at 2:17 am 12.Michael D said …

    And all the people said, Ra-men!

    Praise his holy noodle!

  13. on 20 Jan 2007 at 3:21 pm 13.Australian job said …

    Australian job

    Well… Nice blog!

  14. on 21 Jan 2007 at 9:40 am 14.abc said …

    I agree with people when they say that the violence and cruelty and evertything evil that is in the world is unexplained.But I feel that while God cannot be explained by things external,we arent in a position to deny his/her(I am sorry I do not have an appropriate reference) presence….Ultimately the very existence of world and ourselves is a mystery…

    I’ve read about St. Therese Newmann.May be you will find it convincing(I am not a Christian in the sense that I have not been baptized and I do not understand everything taught in the name of Christianity.But I believe in the principles of love and forgivness and I can only bow to Jesus for the way he forgave everyone and loved all)

    I admire you because you are honestly trying to know….

  15. on 21 Jan 2007 at 11:35 am 15.Mushinronjya said …

    “But I feel that while God cannot be explained by things external,we arent in a position to deny his/her(I am sorry I do not have an appropriate reference) presence”

    There is no evidence of any presence of any god.

    “Ultimately the very existence of world and ourselves is a mystery”

    Read about evolution, astronomy, and abiogenesis.

  16. on 01 Feb 2007 at 6:41 am 16.theone said …

    Youtube this: Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion, New World Order

  17. on 29 Dec 2008 at 5:30 pm 17.Antipeta said …

    I am entralled by this web-site and applaud it’s efforts. The way it presents logical arguments in easy to understand prose is great.
    But something changes in the chapter on sacrifice. Now, while I agree with just about everything this web-site is saying, the section on animal sacrifice (not human) seems to abandon its usual modus operandi of using clear logical arguments, and instead, plays solely on the emotions of the reader.
    Really. I was reading this right before lunch. When lunch time came, I went and had a steak quesadilla and I pondered what I had just read. It just doesn’t meet the standards of the rest of the site. I wish you would re-word that section.
    That such a big deal was made about blood being put on the ear-lobe, and big toe of Aron and his sons is a little confusing. It’s arbitrary. Go to a butcher or slaughter house… it will make this account look like child’s play. Use logic instead of looking like card carrying PETA members. The part about the priests getting their ‘portion’ is a much more convincing arguement.

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