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Christianity Johnson on 11 Dec 2008 12:01 am

Amazing prayer statistics

How many adults in the U.S. pray? According to this article, the number is an astounding 90%:

Study analyzes why people pray

Why are they praying? About half of those adults are asking for something:

the prayers fell into one of three categories — about 28 percent of prayers were requests of God, 28 percent were prayers to both thank and petition God, while another 22 percent of the prayers just thanked God.

Think about that. We can easily see that God doesn’t answer prayers with the simple observation that God won’t heal amputees. We can back that up with other observations as well as scientific research. It is obvious to every rational person that prayer is nothing but an elaborate superstition. Yet 90% of adults participate in this superstition.

If you are in the 90% and would like to instead become rational, this book can help:


31 Responses to “Amazing prayer statistics”

  1. on 12 Dec 2008 at 1:21 am 1.Bob said …

    You have mentioned :

    “Think about that. We can easily see that God doesn’t answer prayers with the simple observation that God won’t heal amputees. We can back that up with other observations as well as scientific research. It is obvious to every rational person that prayer is nothing but an elaborate superstition. Yet 90% of adults participate in this superstition. ”

    Can you explain this:


    I used to think just like you, until one day I was so desperate and I prayed (Although it was not rational) and God helped me.

    Keep this in mind (even if it is not logical) as it might help you one day.

  2. on 12 Dec 2008 at 1:39 am 2.Hermes said …

    Bob, if you have evidence of miracles … bring it to the forums.

    If you think that a video from Paranormal TV is convincing … well … let’s say that a higher standard should be in place for unusual claims and a source that already has drunk the kool-aid is not one that should be considered reliable by anyone who knows the value of sticking with reality.

    Side note: You should have skipped prayer and tried meditation. All the benefits, and none of the supernatural or superstitious baggage.

  3. on 12 Dec 2008 at 2:22 am 3.loved one said …

    wow bob,

    perhaps next you could supply us with “evidence” of alien abductions from Unsolved Mysteries.

  4. on 12 Dec 2008 at 2:30 am 4.Bob said …

    Hi Hermes and loved,

    I’m not sure what qualifies for you as an evidence ..Here is a real footage of a Stigmata while it is happening. Can you explain “logically” how come Jesus wounds appear on her?


    I hope tht the video is real enough for you.

    Note: Meditation can make you feel calmer, but it does not change things that are beyond your control. Prayer does.

  5. on 12 Dec 2008 at 10:59 am 5.Hermes said …

    Bob, I’m not going to spend acres of time going over each and every miracle story video you’ve got here in the blog.

    If you think you have something, gather up your best material for a *single* miracle and we can start with that in the forums.

    Documents would be preferred over videos, but the combination of videos with documentation would be fine as well.

    Tip: Don’t bother with http://healingsandmiracles.org (Carole Miller McCleery-Greene) we’ve already gone over that and it is laughable, as opposed to noble reality of the efforts of actual skilled, competent, hard working, and compassionate humans;



  6. on 12 Dec 2008 at 11:00 am 6.Hermes said …

    The forums can be accessed here;


  7. on 12 Dec 2008 at 7:36 pm 7.loved one said …

    you’ve got to be kidding…
    fake fake fake.
    she claims to have been bleeding from her stigmata since 1984. don’t you think there would be concrete documentation of it rather than a poorly shot video? I read up and it is claimed that her wounds magically healed and oil exuded from her eyes. curiously, no footage or photos.

    I’m glad I don’t have to waste my time showing how she did it. this guy already did:


    if you’re going to accept every youtube miracle you find, you’re in big trouble. It’s not too surprising that these kind of films only crop up in poorer countries. the average adult living in Syria has had 6 years of formal education. is it surprising they might be slightly gullible and desperate for attention? there seems to be a direct correlation between the level of one’s education and their amount of skepticism of the supernatural.

    oh, here are some ‘real’ mermaid pics

    and some ‘real’ aliens

    Discerning fact from fiction is a very handy skill to have in life.
    blurry, shaky, home-made footage is not evidence.

  8. on 12 Dec 2008 at 7:38 pm 8.loved one said …

    and hermes,
    I know you love your forums, but I much prefer the blog. I’ve checked out the forum and I’m just not into it.

  9. on 12 Dec 2008 at 8:16 pm 9.Hermes said …

    No problem. I’m just not going to put as much effort into a blog post.

  10. on 13 Dec 2008 at 12:00 am 10.loved one said …

    I flee that way about the forums. I’d much rather put my efforts into a blog.

  11. on 13 Dec 2008 at 12:02 am 11.loved one said …

    uh, that’s “feel”. but it’s true, forums do make me want to flee for the most part (just way too much going on…). someone like myself who’s just stopping in gets lost in long-winded arguments.

  12. on 13 Dec 2008 at 12:15 am 12.Hermes said …

    What can I say … I love to talk.

  13. on 13 Dec 2008 at 7:59 pm 13.loved one said …

    I noticed!
    keep up the good work, friend.

  14. on 13 Dec 2008 at 11:57 pm 14.Hermes said …

    Don’t encourage my loquaciousness. My linguistic liquidity is incorrigible.

  15. on 16 Dec 2008 at 5:06 pm 15.Kneebow said …

    Isn’t it clear that their is a Creator by the evidence of nature?

    Why do you dismiss everybody who makes a claim that God helped them. You’ve called me crazy, Bob as unrealitsic. How can you judge a road that you have never obviously walked?

    All you cynics should read the Book of Romans. Its in the New Testement after the four Gospels and the Book of Acts.

    By your statements it seems you’ve exchanged the truth of God for a lie. The fool says in his heart their is no God. The fear of the Lord is the beggining of wisdom.

  16. on 17 Dec 2008 at 9:42 am 16.loved one said …

    “Isn’t it clear that their is a Creator by the evidence of nature?”

    no. absolutely not.

    “Why do you dismiss everybody who makes a claim that God helped them.”

    do you dismiss everybody who claims they’ve been abducted and are in communication with alien beings?
    if so, it’s the same reason here. why would one made up story deserve more respect than another.
    if not, then I’m afraid I can’t help you.

    “it seems you’ve exchanged the truth of God for a lie.”

    nope. god is the lie. you’ve been duped.

    “The fear of the Lord is the beggining of wisdom”


    are you afraid of your lord?
    I for one am not afraid of imaginary beings. when I was young, I was afraid of imaginary ghosts under the bed and such. I definitely have some fears, but fear of the lord is not one of them (thank god).

  17. on 17 Dec 2008 at 3:45 pm 17.Kneebow said …

    It is diffucult to debate with a person I would consider ignorant. God is not imagined like your thought process. But based on my exitensial evidence their is a God and, more than that, Christ is God. I know you want material evidence, that you want to test God, if indeed you genuinley seek Him and are not selfish or prideful.

    It can be hard for me to debate with a materialist, empiricalist, athiest or what have you, esceillay those who deny the soul, spirit, and God. Their is more to life than you see and measure. It is wrong to test God, as science can try to do; Jesus Himself said in the 4th chapter of Matthew that you should not put the Lord your God to the test. Greater minds then myself believed in a God. Newton, Einstein, and so forth, who affirmed God in a natural way. You have lost touch with history, though athetists will try to revise it.

    When you see that their is a painting you assume their is a painter. The painting didn’t come from nothing. And what makes a person alive ceases when they physically die, where does that essense or matter go when a person passes? Einstien said that matter can neither be created or destroyed.

    And if you are going to be such an athetist why don’t you admit that your belief cheapens your life to a wasted, wanton passion that leads to despair. You could become insane like Nitezche, suicidal like Hemmingway; all I’m saying is the Bible is true and that sin leads to death; if one persists in the unbelief that you seem to adhere to you will die and never truly know the blessings of God, Jesus, part of the Holy Trinity, who you will bow to and confess someday, for every knee will bow and confess Him.

    It is the most important descision you can make to serve Jesus. If you do not then your life is wasted and your condemned to hell. That is not a hook to get someone into Christianity, but the truth of our existance. The same rules of justice apply to the eternal world as to the physical (for God sent down the Law to Moses). You sin, you steal, you murder, you go to jail and are condemned, and the only person that can save you from the comdentation of your just penaltiy in the eternal world is Jesus, who payed the penalty for your and my sins on the cross. His act is the pinnacle of history that even marks it. He loves people but hates sin, and only faith in Him and repentance can wash you from it. He even died for your sin, though you persit in sinning against Him. Would anybody die for you but Jesus, the person you are at odds with?

    Minds wiser than your own, I could say, but I could be wrong for I don’t personally know you, said that we are one nation under God. Where the people that enugerated your liberties belive in alines, and UFOs, and all other such nonsense. The construct of God’s Laws, to punish evil and reward good, to justify the murderous and reward the industrius and those who give to the poor, are set in the fabric of our institutions.

    You should give up on the idea that Churches are right-wing meetings. They are a place to worship God and have fellowship. If you went to one you would know that.

    My testimony states that I was in error like you; I was a militant liberal, a person who fell into pagan idolotry, but I have been through enough experience to know God existensially. You must seek Christ to know God truly. Beyond that I cannot help you. Maybe then you may be given a measure of faith by God so that you can believe.

  18. on 17 Dec 2008 at 5:04 pm 18.Hermes said …

    Oh, the irony!

  19. on 17 Dec 2008 at 8:07 pm 19.loved one said …



    you seem to be incapable of having a discussion. I honestly don’t know who you’re responding to. I’ve told you I don’t believe in your imaginary friend, yet you keep referring to him as though I should. for the last time, I don’t. I don’t believe in any god

    >”It is diffucult to debate with a person I would consider ignorant.”

    my sentiments exactly! and you are indeed ignorant about nearly every subject you’ve brought to the table. I find it amusing when xians try to use Einstein as one of their own:
    Einstein said these things about your god:

    “The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.”

    “I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it. (Albert Einstein, 1954)”

    “I believe in Spinoza’s God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. (Albert Einstein)”
    he had a greater mind than any of us here, no?

    “And if you are going to be such an athetist why don’t you admit that your belief cheapens your life to a wasted, wanton passion that leads to despair.”

    because that would not be true. I was raised in the church and was miserable. I got cheap, roundabout answers to all the glaring questions and when I doubted, I was told to pray. which I did, in all earnestness. and god told me “I do not exist”. I left the church and despite the resentment and hate from many ‘Christians’, I’ve never, ever been happier, compassionate, thankful to be alive, optimistic…

    kneebow, if you want to have a discussion about religion, it’s important to be level headed about it. all you’ve done thus far is argue:
    “UH-HUH… It’s true, I know God existensially* and here’s a bible verse, and oh yeah, you’re going to hell.
    (*which is meaningless, by the way. existensially? what are you trying to say? I realize that english might not be your first language, but come on!)

  20. on 18 Dec 2008 at 2:06 am 20.Kneebow said …

    I hope that you find Jesus. You must belive in Him to be saved.

    What cheap roundabout answers did you get?

    I was mistaken. I thought this site was set up to answer questions of existance and why God allows them, not to overthrow Him.

    I hope the Loved One, Hermes and all you find God.

    Jesus never healed an aputee; but He did straighten a limp hand. A body is just a house for our soul. When it dies, the fullness of our glorified spirit will compensate for any lack of the previous place it once existed. Just because someone is an amputee dosen’t mean that God cannot create joy in their life.

    If you want to know anything about God you must earnestly read the Scriptures.

    Their is no Book which comunicates like the Bible and nothing ever so beautifuly written. All of it is amazing but I perticular am blown away by The Sermon on the Mount in the Book of Matthew, John 1, 14, 15, 16; the description of the cruxifition in the four Gospels; the whole book of Romans; Collosians 1, 3; The Book of Daniel, Revelation, the poetry of the Psalms, the Book of Genesis. For a beliver, it convicts us of sin, speaks to us in ways that are inexplicable. You will malighn what I say, but all things work together for God’s glory.

    I will no longer be a part of your darkness and your lie.

  21. on 18 Dec 2008 at 2:11 am 21.Kneebow said …

    Keep blessing Christians!

  22. on 18 Dec 2008 at 2:59 am 22.loved one said …

    “I hope that you find Jesus. You must belive in Him to be saved.”

    I hope you find reason. You must use it to be saved from ignorance. I normally do my best to be polite and respectful, but you have shown nothing but arrogance and you seemed more interested in a monologue than a dialogue.

    “What cheap roundabout answers did you get?”

    all of them.

    “I was mistaken. I thought this site was set up to answer questions of existance and why God allows them, not to overthrow Him.”

    you were mistaken. no need to overthrow Him. He does not exist. If you visit
    and read with an open mind, you may begin to see the light.

    “I will no longer be a part of your darkness and your lie.”


    “Keep blessing Christians!”

    don’t count on it. you are too rude to deserve blessings of any sort.
    good bye.

  23. on 18 Dec 2008 at 6:59 am 23.Kneebow said …

    I tried my best to enlighten you:

    You are a fool to think that there is no Creator. Dictionaries do not come from an explosion in the printing press. They are intelligently designed. THAT IS A LAW OF ALL CREATION. THERE MUST BE A CREATOR FOR THERE TO BE SOMETHING CREATED. You see what is before you but you do not get it. You are a fool.

    Even your messiah of delusion Richard Dawkins doesn’t rule out the existence of God. He said that to Bill Maher. It’s on YouTube.

    You are a fool to deny that there is good and evil in the world. There is good and evil. Was Hitler a saint? No. He was evil! He wanted to kill Jews.

    Just like you salivate at the slander of Christians, who you purport to be so stupid – oh G W Bush is such a moron for freeing people from a tyrant isn’t he, so throw a show at him why don’t you. Or laugh at it.


    Thus, there is sin. There is a right and a wrong. Yes, the devil, the snake of old, did take the form of his nature to deceive Eve and she in turn enticed her husband to disobey. So sin, good and evil, obedience to God and disobedience, came into the world and its been fallen ever since.

    It is not a matter of preference. You can say I like Britney Spears because she makes bad music but you can’t say I like killing people and act like that is an okay thing to prefer. There is a moral conscious that we all have to perceive it. The Law speaks to it as God handed it down from Moses.


    Thus, a Law needed to be made because the evil one deceived man and caused his disobedience. In the Law, the Jews had to rely on many customs so that they may be set apart from their neighboring pagan nations. If this did not happen they would have fallen further into sin and not have been set apart by God, which served a Divine Plan, as God is the planner of all history. The Jews at that time had received many revelations from God; even then they decided to disbelieve and become disobedient, making sacrifices to an idol of a calf. So there where many strict guidelines for them to follow, but many disobeyed even though God revealed miracles ever before them. So death was deserved, for they knew God but decided not to serve Him; if death was not the penalty then disobedience might have been tolerated and the nation would not have been set apart for the Divine Plan, the establishment of Jesus’ throne.




    On atheist stupidity:

    The (if not the first) nation, the nation of Israel, wrote thousands of years before the Greeks philosopher “kings” Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle, who settled in Athens.

    The wisest man who ever lived was a Christian, by the way, and his name was Solomon and he was a fool. All smart people are fools to God. The Greek philosophers exalted themselves as kings and thought you had to be on their level to understand anything. They wrote the most abstract jargon on the planet. And what does God do; exalt the poor, the despised: Shepards and farmers, children. People who are humble and don’t think that they are anything great. Because no one is great before God because everyone is a sinner and He is holy. And holiness is the most pure, beautiful thing that even the greatest painters of the Renaissance used as their model. God is beautiful. He is love.

    All the notorious killers of the twentieth century where fascist or communist atheists (Stalin, Poll Pot, Castro). If they used religion, as Hitler did to some extent, it was a ruse for their own self-interest. It is obvious that a Christian would not kill off the people that their Savior ethnicity was of. Besides, the moral position that the extermination of any human life unjustly is basically something that Atheism would support, because it is ripe with no moral code, that is, nihilism, which is abhorrently immoral.

    You all, as far as I’ve seen, are so inhuman in the way to all treat people. You all think that men are god, that men who received revelation from God and reported it as witnesses are stupid somehow, which is really asking for hellfire,

    None of you are rational at all. You’re all liars and fools. Your logic is broken by unbelief.


    So, a man named Jesus Christ died on the cross for all us retched sinners who are so deplorable we cursed and crucified this very Person who was saved us (the gentiles – the Romans – and Jews alike). We humans are just great aren’t we? So bad things happen to good people. I know look what all of us did to Christ, the most perfect, sinless man who will ever exist. Look what we do to Christians. We crucify them upside down, we exile them to remote islands like Patmos, we scourge them if they challenge anything with the Word of God, like Martin Luther and John Bunyan had to endure, we blame them for all the wars that ever existed, we say cowardly things in the darkness of the internet night how its good that Muslims are killing Christians. How can a real Christian want to start a war? Christ is called the Prince of Peace in Isaiah. We are told to turn the other cheek on the Sermon on the Mount. We are told to pray for our enemies and love them in the same Sermon. But of course there is the war in Iraq, which all liberals and atheists hate like they hate the Christian president George W Bush – whose “stupidity” has spawned a “stupid” characterization of Christians, and helped fuel the many atheist books out now by Hitchins and Dawkins – who wanted to inaugurate liberty for the land of Babylon. But even though we fight for God given rights, and uphold the loving commandments of God, people still love to slander and beat Christians, even hate them, especially our Lord Jesus. It’s all over the Internet. It speaks for the fallen nature of the world as it is called the World Wide Web. Many are guilty of so much sin and unbelief yet they laugh at it. They are digging their pit to hell and turning from the Light of the Son to reach the end of the abyss where they find fiery flames that burn and cannot be consumed as they burn in them! It would be a comedy for me if I didn’t love them and want to snatch them from the fire.

    For some of them their strange delusional reasoning for digging this pit is derived from theories of man. These scoffers say that we “know” that man evolved from a puddle of goo, or some strange theory that sounds like a laughable science fiction story. The breakout book of Darwinism called “The Origin of the Species” didn’t even know the theory of the origin of life? And this guy is buried next to Newton? And the current atheist doesn’t even deny the existence of God. He said that would be unwise. Are you all blind? The blind leading the blind?


    We have the worst century of evil and murder and war than ever. The more things man tries to figure out for himself the closer we come to the end of the world. Imagine this deplorable retched man trying to control all things. Sounds like communism to me. Which failed miserably, and killed many people, and starved others; the suffering that man inflicts by his own invention is deplorable.

    What fruit does atheism produce? None. It is all corrupt and needs to be burned like chaff.

    You are too buried in the books of man to see the true nature of existence. There is a heaven and an earth and a hell.

  24. on 18 Dec 2008 at 12:45 pm 24.Hermes said …

    I’m laughing at you. Embrace your ignorance. Flaunt it. It makes me happy.

    If you have any interest in knowledge, in honest discovery, you can find it. As a pointer, here are some places you can verify if your bigoted statements have any merit at all;

    General statistics – http://www.nationmaster.com

    Religious statistics – http://adherents.com

    Study; More Faithful Nations Are Less Moral

    From the above study;

    “[18] In general, higher rates of belief in and worship of a creator correlate with higher rates of homicide, juvenile and early adult mortality, STD infection rates, teen pregnancy, and abortion in the prosperous democracies (Figures 1-9). The most theistic prosperous democracy, the U.S., is exceptional, but not in the manner Franklin predicted. The United States is almost always the most dysfunctional of the developed democracies, sometimes spectacularly so, and almost always scores poorly. The view of the U.S. as a “shining city on the hill” to the rest of the world is falsified when it comes to basic measures of societal health. Youth suicide is an exception to the general trend because there is not a significant relationship between it and religious or secular factors. No democracy is known to have combined strong religiosity and popular denial of evolution with high rates of societal health. Higher rates of non-theism and acceptance of human evolution usually correlate with lower rates of dysfunction, and the least theistic nations are usually the least dysfunctional. None of the strongly secularized, pro-evolution democracies is experiencing high levels of measurable dysfunction. In some cases the highly religious U.S. is an outlier in terms of societal dysfunction from less theistic but otherwise socially comparable secular developed democracies. In other cases, the correlations are strongly graded, sometimes outstandingly so.”

  25. on 18 Dec 2008 at 7:04 pm 25.Kneebow said …

    “Higher rates of non-theism and acceptance of human evolution usually correlate with lower rates of dysfunction, and the least theistic nations are usually the least dysfunctional.”

    “None of the strongly secularized, pro-evolution democracies is experiencing high levels of measurable dysfunction.”

    I just told you the nation that was entrusted with the oracles of God disobeyed Him and tried to kill Him on a cross. Even if God would tell you His existence and tell you how to live and His righteous Laws where upheld by its institutions, you would still disobey. Humans are inherently evil, as God said to Noah at the end of the flood. Christ died for the ungodly (Romans 5). Everybody is guilty of sinning before the Law. “No one is righteous, not even one.” Before God no one is “good.” We are all worthy of death. Knowledge of the Law may make the urge for sin even greater, as Paul said in Romans 7, and only Jesus can save you from its curse.

    Theism is not what saves people from their sins – it is Jesus Christ. Many of the founding fathers where Deists, some denying the Christian God, and the United States is not a pure Christian nation. There isn’t a perfect Christian nation except in heaven where Christ reigns. The closest thing to a Christian nation on earth are the saints who fellowship and worship God at Church.

    Europe seems, at least from my general vantage and knowledge, to be rather secularist and atheistic, though many of its countries are socialistic and not wholly democratic; I heard a poll recently that over 70 percent of Europeans are atheists. I would like to compare the facts between this region of the world and the United States, even though the United States is quite secular and not purely Christian.

    Look at the difference between private Christian schools and public schools in the United States. Which group has higher rates of teenage pregnancy, suicide, abortion, and other “dysfunctions?” I personally don’t know the stats of either type of school, but I would bet that the rates of dysfunction are higher at secular public schools, where they teach Darwinism in science, liberal sexual education, and lets see what the results prove. I could be wrong, but I could be right.

    By the way, what makes me a bigot? You all prove that you are prejudiced against Christians. You don’t even know the Bible, yet you read what unbelieving men have to say about it, and you make arguments against God and His people? You read book with tiny circulation but cannot read the Word that over millions read as their daily bread. You can’t even read it without all that atheistic poison you’ve read judging it as you read.

    I don’t know what I said that was bigoted. I never maligned any man, female, and person, or religion. I did my best to tell the truth from what I have learned so far as a thinking, spiritual person.

    By the way the wisest man who ever lived said that the fear of the Lord is the start of wisdom. Proverbs 1.

  26. on 18 Dec 2008 at 7:06 pm 26.Hermes said …

    So, I’ve got numbers and facts and everything I post can be checked and challenged with facts … and you’ve got a book and unsupported assertions — but you’re still right?

  27. on 18 Dec 2008 at 7:07 pm 27.Hermes said …

    What makes you a bigot is that you judge not based on facts but on your personal prejudice.

  28. on 26 Mar 2010 at 2:27 am 28.New Jordan said …

    Great articles and it’s so helpful. I want to add your blog into my rrs reader but i can’t find the rrs address. Would you please send your address to my email? Thanks a lot!

  29. on 20 May 2011 at 4:46 am 29.skeptical said …

    kneebow, your argument would be a lot more compelling if it actually had facts & figures to back it up instead of drastic conclusions based on ignorance. you have done a very poor job of proving that a creator exists & an even poorer job of proving that this creator is described by the bible. tell us oh enlightened one, in the book of genesis, how does god create day before creating the sun when day is defined as the period of sunlight??? anyways, i’m glad you have found comfort in your fables. i guess ignorance is bliss.

  30. on 20 May 2011 at 12:24 pm 30.Marco said …

    To understand the meaning of “day” in Genesis 1 we need to determine how the Hebrew word for “day,” yom, is used in the context of Scripture.

    A typical concordance will illustrate that yom can have a range of meanings: a period of light as contrasted to night, a 24-hour period, time, a specific point of time, or a year.

  31. on 20 May 2011 at 12:37 pm 31.Anti-Theist said …

    Interested parties can easily research this for themselves and interpret the meaning within the bible. Why are you here? Are you going to convert the atheists who frequent this site?

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